Air in Fuel????
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Air in Fuel????
Hi from the UK
I have a 1994 ex US Air force F350 4x4 with a 7.3 IDI, sufddenly getting air into the fuel and I can't find out how it's getting there, the truck has only done 73000 miles from new, all the fuel lines are still shiny metal with all the original stickers on them, right back to the tanks so rusty fuel lines isn't an option, the Fuel pump went bad a while back so that has been replaced with a holley red electric fuel pump, I've just replaced that with a new Facet electric pump, I've replaced all the rubber lines up front and the Fuel filter and still there is air, it's draining the fuel filter in around a hour or so, I've closely inspected the fuel line front to rear and it's all bone dry, now at a loss
I have a 1994 ex US Air force F350 4x4 with a 7.3 IDI, sufddenly getting air into the fuel and I can't find out how it's getting there, the truck has only done 73000 miles from new, all the fuel lines are still shiny metal with all the original stickers on them, right back to the tanks so rusty fuel lines isn't an option, the Fuel pump went bad a while back so that has been replaced with a holley red electric fuel pump, I've just replaced that with a new Facet electric pump, I've replaced all the rubber lines up front and the Fuel filter and still there is air, it's draining the fuel filter in around a hour or so, I've closely inspected the fuel line front to rear and it's all bone dry, now at a loss
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I bet it is the olives, Motorcraft PN: 9k260 & 9c387 (2 of each). There are 4 total on the fuel system and they are easily overlooked, One is on the fitting going into the front of the filter head, one on the fitting on the back of the filter head going ti the injection pump, one on the line going into back of the injection pump and one on the back of the engine where the return lines meet up. also there are 2 o rings in the filter head that seal the fuel heater plug, not sure on the sizes on those sorry. I think most guys suggest putting the E-pump back closer to the tank.
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Hi IDIGuy
Forgot to mention i upgraded the fuel filter and housing as soon as i bought the Truck, them stock filters are impossible to get in the UK, I just put a temporary clear see through filter in the fuel line just before the electric pump, i see very small air bubbles coming up stream with the motor off, must be something further back then
Forgot to mention i upgraded the fuel filter and housing as soon as i bought the Truck, them stock filters are impossible to get in the UK, I just put a temporary clear see through filter in the fuel line just before the electric pump, i see very small air bubbles coming up stream with the motor off, must be something further back then
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this morning the filter were empty, leak must be getting worse I replaced all 6 O rings in the fuel selector valve this morning, what a pita that was, left the truck running 20 mins and I see bubbles in the filter again, getting really hacked off now, thought my old chevy was unreliable but this is as bad
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ah crap.yup that's no good.well unfortunately no one here can really tell ya just where its leaking.it's going over the system from that filter to the tanks.could be the pickup tubes at the tank are rusty and have pin holes there.the plastic/nylon fuel lines r their fittings to the selector valve,the connections out of the valve or the line to the filter.
the only tips that might help ya out,is the soapy water may help.might get lucky and see it pushing the air out of the lines if you wet them.may not be as easy with a high pressure tire for example but it's a start.beats trying to find a pin hole on a dry line.you'd never see it.
another tip that might be helpful is a common place for failure would be the supply line from the selector valve where its mounted in the metal clips.pull them out from the clips and put the water to them there.might find rusted pin holes.it doesn't take much.your looking for something so small you'd likely never see it without close inspection and wetting the lines.best of luck.
with the f250 and being a 4wd.the underside was a bit rusty looking of course (much more so than the f450 2wd truck which didn't get used on winter roads)
i didn't even bother with it brother.i just knew those factory 15+ yr old metal lines if not leaky yet,would be soon anyway.i just ripped them out before even putting the truck on the road and replaced them with fuel hose.
the metal fuel lines and the brake lines all got replaced right then as preventive.
for he f450 (same age truck.even 3 yrs older when purchased) they all look great.just no need to replace either system.iv no doubt just by looking at those,it would be needlessly tossing $ away as im sure they're "probably" be fine for 5-10 more years.with the f250's....not a chance.far too spotty looking.
the only tips that might help ya out,is the soapy water may help.might get lucky and see it pushing the air out of the lines if you wet them.may not be as easy with a high pressure tire for example but it's a start.beats trying to find a pin hole on a dry line.you'd never see it.
another tip that might be helpful is a common place for failure would be the supply line from the selector valve where its mounted in the metal clips.pull them out from the clips and put the water to them there.might find rusted pin holes.it doesn't take much.your looking for something so small you'd likely never see it without close inspection and wetting the lines.best of luck.
with the f250 and being a 4wd.the underside was a bit rusty looking of course (much more so than the f450 2wd truck which didn't get used on winter roads)
i didn't even bother with it brother.i just knew those factory 15+ yr old metal lines if not leaky yet,would be soon anyway.i just ripped them out before even putting the truck on the road and replaced them with fuel hose.
the metal fuel lines and the brake lines all got replaced right then as preventive.
for he f450 (same age truck.even 3 yrs older when purchased) they all look great.just no need to replace either system.iv no doubt just by looking at those,it would be needlessly tossing $ away as im sure they're "probably" be fine for 5-10 more years.with the f250's....not a chance.far too spotty looking.
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keep at 'er.