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Old 12-18-2013, 10:21 PM
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I was looking for a performance shop in the Dallas area. I actually live in Garland. But i haven't found may shops that can work on these diesels.
Example: Someone to order a tuner or programmer from but also to install and tune the truck after. Or if i bought gauges for my truck, i'd like someone who could install them so i know that its done right, instead of me trying to do it all myself. I understand that some of you may not think its a good idea or that its not needed, and i respect your opinion. But i would like some input from people that have these items and where the got them and had them installed.
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To Find a good Shop you could look in the Chapters close to you , go to the Forums click then Chapters click and find the area, as far as the Gauges Most use Scan Gauge from Auto zone you will have to enter ford X Gauges into it and its real simple to do ask and somebody will get you the full PID spread sheet. You found the right web site FTE, will teach and save you Lots of money to where you will and can work on your Own 6.0L . Welcome to FTE Oh and also the TECH folders from the main page lots of great Info and take a look at the 6.0 Bible to get Familer with where all these parts and sensers are.
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Old 12-18-2013, 11:07 PM
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If you buy this:
Amazon.com: Edge Products 83830 CTS Insight Monitor: Automotive Amazon.com: Edge Products 83830 CTS Insight Monitor: Automotive

You plug one cable into the OBDII port, and it just works. Zero install.

If you buy the $440 tuner:
https://gearheadautomotiveperformanc...product/combos
You plug one cable into the OBDII port, push a button, and it works.

There's no "installation" for these, there's just using them. If you had a shop install the CTS, then you would still have to learn how to use it. I run the exact same setup, an SCT SF3 3015 tuner installed under an Edge Insight CTS, and it's all 100% plug-and-play simplicity. If you're still worried about pushing the buttons, I can meet you at any Starbucks or Waffle House around Dallas and show you how to do it. We have at least a half dozen guys from DFW here that would probably be glad to show you how to use the hardware.

The only things that need to be "installed" are going to be stand alone gauges like fuel pressure or EGT. But I couldn't name a shop in DFW that does that. Closest ones I've heard of are in Emory, Gainsville, Bandera, and Houston. Not that they for sure don't exist, I just couldn't vouch for any of them even if I could name them.
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Old 12-18-2013, 11:23 PM
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what about the other one?
SCT 5015 Tuner and Tunes for 6.0 ???

And for the Edge what is the difference between the one you showed me and this one:
Edge Products 85250 Evolution CTS programmer ????

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Old 12-18-2013, 11:33 PM
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The Edge Evolution is a programmer. The Insight I linked to is an essentially identical piece of hardware to the Evo CTS, but the Insight is only a gauge box and can't push programming into the PCM. Edge sells canned tuning that can't be changed out, whereas with an SCT tuner you can buy custom tunes that are generally accepted as being better. There's a lot going around that Edge will damage the transmission, but it won't, that was an early shift-on-the-fly model that had that problem. Edge tuners are limited because you can't swap out the tunes it comes with, that's the real benefit to getting an SCT tuner.

The SCT 5015 is a programmer that has gauge capability built into it, but I've never seen a list of what it can actually show or do. It's definitely an option, I just can't confirm what it does exactly. I recommend the SCT 3015/digital gauge combo because you get all the flexibility of SCT tuning with a gauge system that's purpose built and run by a lot of people here who can help you sort it out. But if you don't want to add components individually (read: buy used to save $), the 5015 is probably the best single-package deal.

The separate gauge options commonly brought up around here are the:
Edge Insight CTS
Torque App for android phones
DashBoss app for iPhones/iPads
Scangauge II
DashDaq

I recommend the Edge Insight CTS because you plug it in once, you leave it in the truck, it covers 95% of what you need to see, and it's pre-programmed so you don't have to sit around typing in a ton of numbers.
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Bryon, most of those will still pull DTC ( codes ) right
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The Insight, DashBoss and SCT 3015 (and I'd assume 5015) do. The Scangauge kind of sucks in that department, and I don't know about Torque or DashDaq because I haven't used them. Then of course AE is the heavy lifter for diagnostics.
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Cool Thanks, I have the Scan Gauge II and Have pull a few codes that poped up . I'm still looking at the Dash boss maybe Santa will be nice this year LOL
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DashDaq because I haven't used them. Then of course AE is the heavy lifter for diagnostics.
DashDAQ does quite well in the code department. If you get the expanded license (have to with AE as well) then it can pull even more codes.

However, with the Evolution. Doesn't Power Hungry use the Evolution as a base for their custom tuning for some engines? Don't know if it applies to the 6.0 specifically or diesel in general, but I do believe that they do use the Evolution as a base for their custom tuning.



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However, with the Evolution. Doesn't Power Hungry use the Evolution as a base for their custom tuning for some engines? Don't know if it applies to the 6.0 specifically or diesel in general, but I do believe that they do use the Evolution as a base for their custom tuning.
They used to, at least it was based on that platform. I think they have their own brand of tune now although they may still be able to alter Edge programming.....
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I don't know exactly what happened with PHP and the Evo platform. I heard it was an updating issue because the Evo wasn't meant to be able to swap tune files, but that might just be a rumor. Yes Bill used to sell the Gryphon CTS with custom tuning, but to the best of my knowledge they aren't selling them anymore, and even when they did I don't think they weren't able to convert an Evo to a Gryphon.

Another internet rumor I've heard is that Bill wrote the canned Edge 6.0L tunes. Judging by his other 6.0 work (FICM tunes) they aren't "bad" tunes to run, you're just stuck with the tunes that came loaded into the box.
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