Logical order of trouble shooting, stall...
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Logical order of trouble shooting, stall...
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So, here's the deal; on our way back from Phoenix maybe 2 or 3 hrs into the trip we were cruzin along +/- 70mph on cruse control and for one fraction of a second the truck hiccupped taking it out of cruz, it happened to fast I didn't see any check engine lights, wait to start lights or otherwise. We had a snap on scan tool hooked up for the whole ride and IIRC TJ said he had a code for intake temp or something but that's it.. The rest of the 46 hours no problems what so ever. I get home park the truck, get up in the am drive around running errands, no issues, go to get an oil change at the Ford garage, they put in 15/40. On my way home 10 minutes later I'm headed in to town, down shift from 4th to 3rd and she stalls again but instantaneously refires, I suppose because I was in gear; again didn't notice any dash lights. I drive over to my brothers 10 minutes away all is good, we have a beer and shoot the chit then I'm on my way again, truck sat for maybe 30/40 minutes. I drive for 10 minutes to my house and just before I get to my driveway I down shift from 3rd to 2nd and again stall; snow was on the road so no bumpstart also prob too much comp for the slow speed I was traveling.
This time I try to restart with the key, first time long crank no fire, second time normal crank and fire. I bought a CPS from ford before I left but we didn't see the need to install it at that point during the trip.. NOTE: the fuel filter housing has an aftermarket cap, we brought a filter and I was going to change it just for the hell of it but we couldn't so we just left it alone, I bought a new OEM cap at the dealer the other day and TJ is installing it w a new filter before I get home.. NOTE: TJ ran diagnostics on the truck yesterday and found no stored codes form my 2 stall situations.
Sooo, question is: In what order considering the traits of the malfunction should I approach this from? Since I have the CPS should I just bolt that in and see? Then the IPR or IPR O-ring and the ICP? Just wondering the most efficient direction..
I realize this is a revolving topic but I thought there must be some logical order to trouble shooting them, thus the more to the point question. Thanks fellas!
So, here's the deal; on our way back from Phoenix maybe 2 or 3 hrs into the trip we were cruzin along +/- 70mph on cruse control and for one fraction of a second the truck hiccupped taking it out of cruz, it happened to fast I didn't see any check engine lights, wait to start lights or otherwise. We had a snap on scan tool hooked up for the whole ride and IIRC TJ said he had a code for intake temp or something but that's it.. The rest of the 46 hours no problems what so ever. I get home park the truck, get up in the am drive around running errands, no issues, go to get an oil change at the Ford garage, they put in 15/40. On my way home 10 minutes later I'm headed in to town, down shift from 4th to 3rd and she stalls again but instantaneously refires, I suppose because I was in gear; again didn't notice any dash lights. I drive over to my brothers 10 minutes away all is good, we have a beer and shoot the chit then I'm on my way again, truck sat for maybe 30/40 minutes. I drive for 10 minutes to my house and just before I get to my driveway I down shift from 3rd to 2nd and again stall; snow was on the road so no bumpstart also prob too much comp for the slow speed I was traveling.
This time I try to restart with the key, first time long crank no fire, second time normal crank and fire. I bought a CPS from ford before I left but we didn't see the need to install it at that point during the trip.. NOTE: the fuel filter housing has an aftermarket cap, we brought a filter and I was going to change it just for the hell of it but we couldn't so we just left it alone, I bought a new OEM cap at the dealer the other day and TJ is installing it w a new filter before I get home.. NOTE: TJ ran diagnostics on the truck yesterday and found no stored codes form my 2 stall situations.
Sooo, question is: In what order considering the traits of the malfunction should I approach this from? Since I have the CPS should I just bolt that in and see? Then the IPR or IPR O-ring and the ICP? Just wondering the most efficient direction..
I realize this is a revolving topic but I thought there must be some logical order to trouble shooting them, thus the more to the point question. Thanks fellas!
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Looks like a unanimous answer for a CPS swap.. We'll go ahead and get it done..
When I wasn't driving on our way across I was F'ing around on the iPad, I googled the symptoms and there were various answers including a ground problem or the injector o-rings, can we safely rule those out at this point?
When I wasn't driving on our way across I was F'ing around on the iPad, I googled the symptoms and there were various answers including a ground problem or the injector o-rings, can we safely rule those out at this point?
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I wouldn't say that you can all together rule those out as possibilities, but they're no where near as common an issue as the CPS is and what you describe is a classic symptom of the CPS. Besides being a very likely source of the issue, at $40 and about a 10 minute investment, it's a good place to start.
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I wouldn't say that you can all together rule those out as possibilities, but they're no where near as common an issue as the CPS is and what you describe is a classic symptom of the CPS. Besides being a very likely source of the issue, at $40 and about a 10 minute investment, it's a good place to start.
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Hi just following along this conversation, I just recently joined & I'm kinda having the same problems,w/my 95. F250.PSD.w/auto, what's a c.p.s. caam position sensor?& also what's a I.C.P. I've been looking online for days for some free advice ended joining up here,just bought the truck n it has 250k on it idles kinda low to..anything would be helpful.thxs n merry Christmas..
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Hi just following along this conversation, I just recently joined & I'm kinda having the same problems,w/my 95. F250.PSD.w/auto, what's a c.p.s. caam position sensor?& also what's a I.C.P. I've been looking online for days for some free advice ended joining up here,just bought the truck n it has 250k on it idles kinda low to..anything would be helpful.thxs n merry Christmas..
Stick around this forum and you'll learn all you ever wanted to know about these old trucks. It is a great place to be.
Merry Christmas to you and yours.
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OK n Thxs . Merry Christmas to all .. I'll go down tmrw n get a manual for the truck. She's my first diesel, and by all appearance has been well taken care of,just been sitting for awhile, bought from son of original owner,/ so father son truck, excellent body n paint will post pics in a few days 250 k miles 4:10 gear ratio/long bed w/trailer pkg,decent interior..just not running right,so I'll stick around see what I can learn & also share.
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Hi, first thanks for the online link,it did come in handy..like a Tard thou"I purchased one..$$ turned out to be same one....so still have problem,only now it won't start n gray smoke coming out exhaust..just going to stop Nickle n dime n it..going to shop on Monday..I'll keep You"all up to date w/ what's going on..Thanks again. Kevin.
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Hi, n Thanks for the advice, I did get it to start..w/some gray smoke exhaust smells kinda different, could just be my old nose hairs thou,ha/ha..so yea I put it trickle charge n it starts..still little bit of gray smoke not every time thou..so do you think it could be the cps ? Thanks again..Kevin.
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