Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Diesel > 6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?


6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 2003 - 2007 F250, F350 pickup and F350+ Cab Chassis, 2003 - 2005 Excursion and 2003 - 2009 van SPONSORED BY:

Reply
 
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 12-06-2013, 05:28 AM
Number21 Number21 is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: OR
Posts: 361
Number21 is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
1500 watt block heater for 6.0?

Had my block heater plugged in today for 3+ hours and still only hit about 75 degrees on my scangauge. That's plenty warm to get it started but still nowhere near operating temp and not much heat. Most of the time I only have time to leave the block heater plugged in for an hour or so.

Is there a 1500w heating element I can install in my 6.0? The factory heater is supposed to be 1000w but I measure only 900. I have seen them for the 7.3 but not the 6.0. Does anybody know what size the threads are?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-06-2013, 04:00 PM
IHbase's Avatar
IHbase IHbase is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 486
IHbase is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.IHbase is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
More heat seems like a bad idea- it does not get serious cold in Oregon and then stay that way for weeks like Montana, the Dakotas and Minnesota. Block heaters are not intended to keep a motor at operating temp and you probably would not want to pay the electric bill if they did. Seems like fixing something that is not broken. In extreme cold the next steps are battery blankets and transmission heaters- but you would never need them in Oregon. -Mike
__________________
[/SIGPIC]
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-06-2013, 04:56 PM
Yahiko's Avatar
Yahiko Yahiko is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Spanaway
Posts: 10,008
Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.
If you need more heat and I don't think you do. Get a
stick on heat pad and stick it on the oil pan.
Have a look at this link.
E-Z HEAT A/C ENGINE PREHEATER from Aircraft Spruce

Sean
__________________
Three Happy Cats "How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time!"
Mods Blue Spring, High Idle(BCP), Coolant Filter,SCT from http://www.gearheadautomotiveperformance.com/
HFCM Drain Plug, Nav System, Leveling Kit, Backup Camera, HID Fog 3000K & Driving Lights 4300K
6.0l Forum Map : Ask me About It
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-06-2013, 05:05 PM
Number21 Number21 is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: OR
Posts: 361
Number21 is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Like I already said, I know I don't NEED more heat, but there is certainly nothing that makes it a "bad idea". The closer it is to operating temperature the better it is for the engine, and the better it is for me. That's why mission critical diesel generators in places like hospitals, have circulating block heaters that keep the engines at around 180 degrees full time. (So they can just start up and go) Electricity is far, far, far cheaper than diesel and my engine gets twice or better MPG when it is warm. 5-10 miles at operating temp vs 5-10 miles warming up is a BIG difference in fuel.

I am already going to install an oil pan heater since there is nothing the block heater could ever do for all that cold oil in the pan. But the 900w block heater is still extremely weak. Your average water heater holds 40 gallons of water and has a 5500 watt element. My engine has 15 gallons of fluids and 1,000lbs of steel to heat up with just 900 watts. 1500 watts cost about 15 cents per hour, if I can afford the diesel I can afford that.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-06-2013, 05:28 PM
gunnarGSD gunnarGSD is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Posts: 104
gunnarGSD is starting off with a positive reputation.
Your 900w block heater is not warming up all 15 gallons of your coolant. It is warming the coolant in the block. When I start mine the coolant temperature actually drops a bit as it starts to circulate then recovers fairly quickly. -15f were I am at right now and by the time I leave my neighborhood I have decent heat coming from the vents and defroster after being plugged in. Hate to say it but this time of year with the winter fuel in cold climates we all get crappy mileage, it is what it is. But like other have said I don't think you need it either.
__________________
2014 F150, 5.0 XTR
2006 F350, 6.0. Sold
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-06-2013, 05:50 PM
Yahiko's Avatar
Yahiko Yahiko is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Spanaway
Posts: 10,008
Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.
Do to convection you do get some heating of the
radiator. The warm fluid moves up and the cold
fluid moves in to take it's place and as it cools
it drops and the cycle goes on.

It's just not driven by a pump. Speaking of you could
make some system for quick disconnect and pump
heated coolant into the engine. The hard part would
be a valve that does not loose fluid in the connect
disconnect process.

Sean
__________________
Three Happy Cats "How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time!"
Mods Blue Spring, High Idle(BCP), Coolant Filter,SCT from http://www.gearheadautomotiveperformance.com/
HFCM Drain Plug, Nav System, Leveling Kit, Backup Camera, HID Fog 3000K & Driving Lights 4300K
6.0l Forum Map : Ask me About It
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-06-2013, 06:05 PM
gunnarGSD gunnarGSD is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Posts: 104
gunnarGSD is starting off with a positive reputation.
Theoretically I guess that's true but there is no direct link between the coolant in the block and the radiator once the thermostat closes. The radiator is blocked off by the thermostat and the water pump. But if it's cold enough for you to use a block heater I don't see any benefit from convection heat.
__________________
2014 F150, 5.0 XTR
2006 F350, 6.0. Sold
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-06-2013, 06:16 PM
Number21 Number21 is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: OR
Posts: 361
Number21 is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Yes...right now I'm not heating the coolant in the radiator (or the oil in the pan) and that's part of the problem. Big drop in temp as soon as the engine starts. I've considered installing an auxiliary electric water pump to circulate water when the block heater is on. This way I could pre warm the cab without the engine running. (Pumps are cheap) If I can't find a stronger block heater I'll probably install a tank type heater.

And again I usually don't have 3+ hours to leave it plugged in. I want it warm in an hour, hot in two. I don't work on a normal schedule, I don't know when I'm going to leave. I can't use a timer.

Yes, I know I don't NEED it. Nobody in Oregon needs a block heater. I don't need leather seats either. But I have them.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-06-2013, 06:49 PM
Yahiko's Avatar
Yahiko Yahiko is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Spanaway
Posts: 10,008
Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.Yahiko has a spectacular reputation.
Heat transfers through the metal and will in fact heat the upper hose it just slower.

Sean
__________________
Three Happy Cats "How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time!"
Mods Blue Spring, High Idle(BCP), Coolant Filter,SCT from http://www.gearheadautomotiveperformance.com/
HFCM Drain Plug, Nav System, Leveling Kit, Backup Camera, HID Fog 3000K & Driving Lights 4300K
6.0l Forum Map : Ask me About It
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-06-2013, 06:58 PM
Bullitt390's Avatar
Bullitt390 Bullitt390 is offline
Certified Thread Hijacker
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 12,266
Bullitt390 has much to be proud ofBullitt390 has much to be proud ofBullitt390 has much to be proud ofBullitt390 has much to be proud ofBullitt390 has much to be proud ofBullitt390 has much to be proud ofBullitt390 has much to be proud ofBullitt390 has much to be proud ofBullitt390 has much to be proud ofBullitt390 has much to be proud of
joshjones.thewelder
I've always been the naysayer when it comes to plugging in, but I have plugged in 3 days this week and with temps at -9 and colder each overnight and morning

I did the timer at 3 hours and it was at 54 ECT

5 hours was in the 60s

7 hours at -9 temps was at 75 ECT this morning.

Josh
__________________


2006 F250 XLT 6.0 PowerStroke Diesel 4X4: SRL Custom Tune Atlas 40 FICM Rotella 0W40 DASHBOSS Ford VCM II IDS Custom Y-Pipe Fabrication
Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2013, 06:58 PM
 
 
 
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cold Start making Block Heater a MUST F250W6.0 6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 15 01-03-2014 09:51 PM
Winter Plug in heater options? WhiteBeast-05-powers 6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 4 09-20-2011 11:44 AM
Block heater plug in jstarr 6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 18 10-08-2010 05:50 PM
Engine Block heater on 6.0 fordcountry 6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 17 11-24-2005 02:17 AM
-41║F hard diesel starting Twin Tritons Super Duty & Heavy Duty 11 02-08-2005 11:17 PM


Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Diesel > 6.0L Power Stroke Diesel

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump


Participate In The Forums

Create new posts and participate in discussions. It's free!

Sign Up ╗





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 AC1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertising - Terms of Use - Privacy Statement - Jobs
This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. Ford« is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.

vbulletin Admin Backup