Us torture an engine at our meets? Never!

 

Why, what needs to change? What's wrong with it?

I guess coming from most of the rest of the automotive world you don't see redesigns every couple of years necessarily. Jeeps (Wranglers) tend to go in 10 year cycles, for example, the first Miata was around for almost 10 years, etc.

 

Nothing in particular but everything. That's just my opinion. I think that 2006-2007 was the last really good looking front end.

Quite frankly, I'd love to see the SD and the F-150 go back to the same look. Naturally the SD would maintain it's size and capability but it would look like a huge F-150.

 

I agree. The new, 2011 and newer SD are hideous. The grille, bumper, headlights, gas tank door, huge 4x4 sticker, huge fender flares and humongous ram like 6.7 PS symbol make this truck by far the worst ever made. The 07 is a great looking truck but the 08-10 has grown to be my favorite

 

There's something about chebby and dooge were at first glance all their trucks look like a 1/2 ton. Just doesn't do it for me, I like that ford has 100% dedicated hd truck platform.

 

i agree having a dedicated body is nice I just wish the current one would stop being made lol

 

I'd love to see a quality IFS and rack-and-pinion steering for the new trucks. That would make it handle and ride less like a grain truck and make for a better daily driver. And yes, you most certainly can make a tough-as-nails IFS.

 

I'd agree with the right approach and no frame that sits way lower than the body.

 

Looking at thepg reports from f150 ecoboosts i dont see an ecobost of any size in the sd making much better mpg than the 6.2. So the market would have to be for better towing/power which runs it up against the 6.7 which is also hard to compete with.

Anyone see a ecobost of 400+hp in a 8000Lb brick shaped superduty making much over the 14-16mpg the 6.2 gets??

 

hell i think the latest sd is the best looking one, big and bold . but i would also love to see a new model . the same basic cab ,doors, and bed been around 16 yrs .. im ready to look at something new.

 

I disagree with the fuel economy part. My F150 has the least fuel efficient configuration possible with the EcoBoost engine, and I can routinely exceed 20 MPG on the highway at 65 MPH. It's rated at 21 highway, but I don't average that.

In contrast, my uncle just bought a 2013 6.2L F150 Platinum; at 65 MPH he shows 15-16 MPGs with the same 3.73 gears that I have. That truck is rated at 16 MPG highway.

That makes my truck 30% more efficient than a similar 6.2L truck. How is that NOT much better?

 

We are talking about 3/4 and 1 ton. The eco seems to loose its advantage as the weight goes up

 

And somehow the 6.2L has a magic weight reduction feature an EB wouldn't?

 

No if you look at mpg reports the eco has a big advantage at curb weight. As gvcw goes up the eco and 6.2 get alot closer mpg. Since the 3/4 and 1 ton will have higher average gcvw the advanTage of the eco would be less!

 

I don't know; we had this discussion in the Excursion forum when someone brought up the idea of an EcoBoost swap. Everyone decried the idea stating that the little V6 would get single-digit fuel economy with the weight of an Excursion.

But my F150 with a 500 lb motorcycle in the bed while towing a 3,500 lb trailer gets as high as 15 MPGs on the highway at 65 MPH. The same trip on my empty Excursion yielded 12.5 MPG with the old V10; most reports suggest that the 6.2L isn't much better than the V10.

No doubt efficiency goes down as boost goes up as the engine retards ignition timing to avoid detonation, but a larger 5.0L engine would have the displacement to not require much boost at all to maintain speed. And if the 5.0L saw the same power increase as the EcoBoost did with the twin-turbo treatment it would turn an F350 into a rocket ship!