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Old 11-10-2013, 09:45 AM
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No if you look at mpg reports the eco has a big advantage at curb weight. As gvcw goes up the eco and 6.2 get alot closer mpg. Since the 3/4 and 1 ton will have higher average gcvw the advanTage of the eco would be less!
Please provided a link to what your saying. Considering a 5.0L EB doesn't exist I think you'll have a hard time providing any such information.

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No doubt efficiency goes down as boost goes up as the engine retards ignition timing to avoid detonation, but a larger 5.0L engine would have the displacement to not require much boost at all to maintain speed. And if the 5.0L saw the same power increase as the EcoBoost did with the twin-turbo treatment it would turn an F350 into a rocket ship!
There is little doubt in my mind a properly sized EB would exceed the fuel economy of a 6.2L NA. To me the 3.5L V6 does not have the non-turbo displacement to be efficient (larger frontal area not so much about weight) in the Super Duty but I would think a 5.0L V8 would.

Don't get me wrong I'm a fan of the 6.2L engine. However, I think a 5.0L EB would be more fuel efficent while having more HP/TQ. It would also be more expensive so that is why the 6.2L would need to remain in the lineup. 6.2L, 5.0L EB and the 6.7L diesel would offer a great engine lineup and, as others have said, a game changer in this segment.
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In contrast, my uncle just bought a 2013 6.2L F150 Platinum;

Tom, your Uncle has GREAT taste!!
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With our history on the subject I had quite a laugh at that one Russ, thanks.
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This may change my plan for the time being then. Its nice to see that they are bringing back the real F450. Since my truck isn't worth much anymore I may just keep it 2 more years and order a F450.

The only issue I have with the current SD is that flow through console. I would love to have leather buckets and a manual 4x4. It would be nice if they offered a seating configuration like the 08-10 trucks had...who needs 4 cup holders in the front?

I also like the 6.0 like singe turbo again. Man Ive got some thinking to do as Ive tracked down a 12 KR Dually.


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I'd love to see a quality IFS and rack-and-pinion steering for the new trucks. That would make it handle and ride less like a grain truck and make for a better daily driver. And yes, you most certainly can make a tough-as-nails IFS.
No thanks. I prefer my old leaf sprung solid front axle. I am an odd person,i guess, but i really don't like the floaty feeling i get from the newer trucks.
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This may change my plan for the time being then. Its nice to see that they are bringing back the real F450. Since my truck isn't worth much anymore I may just keep it 2 more years and order a F450.

The only issue I have with the current SD is that flow through console. I would love to have leather buckets and a manual 4x4. It would be nice if they offered a seating configuration like the 08-10 trucks had...who needs 4 cup holders in the front?

I also like the 6.0 like singe turbo again. Man Ive got some thinking to do as Ive tracked down a 12 KR Dually.


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personally i hate never having enough cup holders. if you recall most 99-07 SD's had 4 cup holders also. two either in the flip down or in the console...then two more in the dash pull out. my line of thinking is you can never have enough cup holders.

the seats you get with the center seat VS the console are exactly the same as the one with the full console so in your case just get the fold down seat? problem fixed.
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Anyone who lives out of their truck. That configuration is great. You can still get your bench seat if you really think it's better.
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I do live out of my truck most of the summer and never had a need for 4 cup holders, guess that's just me.

I don't want, nor do I like a bench seat. I love my buckets just don't like the flow through console. Reason being is you cant get a manual 4x4 with it, and I have no place top mount my Jotto desk console which has my CB, HAM, and Scanner.

Just pointing out a few of my pet peeves with the newer trucks, didn't mean to offend anyone g

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"No thanks. I prefer my old leaf sprung solid front axle. I am an odd person,i guess, but i really don't like the floaty feeling i get from the newer trucks."

Me too on the solid axle/leaf spring front end! Feels much, much more stable in high crosswinds with a lightweight, high profile travel trailer.
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I towed the same trailer, about 6,500 lb., 32' bumper pull, with the same sway control hitch (a Reese Straight-Line, set up for the trailer) with my '01 and a new '11, the same afternoon on the same highway (test driving the 2011) in the same 35-45mph quartering crosswind. The drive was about 16 miles each direction.

The '11 was set up as close to my '01 as was possible.

There is a definite difference in the way the two trucks felt under those conditions. The '11 handled the trailer just fine, I am NOT knocking it. The anti-sway control never activated either. I don't think there was any problem with the truck. But, I was surprised how much more lateral movement there was in the front end each time I encountered a wind gust.
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