87 F250 4.9 Injection problem
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87 F250 4.9 Injection problem
I posted a while back and still haven't figured out the problem. I think the fuel rail might be clogged because i have power and good ground, when i removed the throttle body i discovered a connector with two black wires on one side not plugged in. All of my injectors are plugged in and i have good fuel pressure at the test valve before the rail. If anyone could tell me what that connector plugs into that would be great, i could find anything it goes to??? I can take pictures if need be!
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Being its a 87 4.9L engine, that connector is probly the blower motor connector for the injector cooling blower which is most likely not on the engine(not seen in photo). Ford installed that POS system then removed it, but left the wiring in the harness till a later redesign of the wiring.
As it won't run, check for spark and fuel pumps running. Next thing is pull the codes from the ECU, it will hopefully tell what to look for next.
One test I do with a dead engine, is spray starting fluid in the intake and see if it fires off the prime. If it does, then look in the fuel system. If not, then ignition system 1st.
As it won't run, check for spark and fuel pumps running. Next thing is pull the codes from the ECU, it will hopefully tell what to look for next.
One test I do with a dead engine, is spray starting fluid in the intake and see if it fires off the prime. If it does, then look in the fuel system. If not, then ignition system 1st.
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What i mean is i have no check engine light and the ECM or computer in the truck is brand new, matching numbers as the old one so everything should work correctly. My injectors turn on but they dont squirt gas into the engine when i turn the key, they buzz for about two seconds as well as the fuel pump.
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My conclusion to this point is i might have a bad FPR or something wrong with my relays. I dont think my FPR is working correctly because my injectors noid and all of my relays seem to be ok. My fuel pump and injectors kick on when i turn the key, but the injector bank seems not to be squirting gas. i recently pulled off my FPR and it had gas in it, but im not sure if it pushed the gas through to the injectors. Any help would be great Thanks for sticking with me!
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My conclusion to this point is i might have a bad FPR or something wrong with my relays. I dont think my FPR is working correctly because my injectors noid and all of my relays seem to be ok. My fuel pump and injectors kick on when i turn the key, but the injector bank seems not to be squirting gas. i recently pulled off my FPR and it had gas in it, but im not sure if it pushed the gas through to the injectors. Any help would be great Thanks for sticking with me!
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My conclusion to this point is i might have a bad FPR or something wrong with my relays. I dont think my FPR is working correctly because my injectors noid and all of my relays seem to be ok. My fuel pump and injectors kick on when i turn the key, but the injector bank seems not to be squirting gas. i recently pulled off my FPR and it had gas in it, but im not sure if it pushed the gas through to the injectors. Any help would be great Thanks for sticking with me!
i have good fuel pressure at the test valve
What was that statement based on, did you use a gauge to check it?
FPR doesn't "push fuel through the injectors" what it does is limit fuel flow back to the tank, the fuel the engine doesn't require based on pressure value.
Low engine vacuum = high engine load = more fuel.
Low vacuum = increase in fuel pressure via the FPR decreasing flow return to tank.
4.9L fuel pressure specs (87 model).
KOEO 35-45psi
engine running vac line to FPR connected, 30-45psi
engine running vac line to FPR disconnected, pressure should increase 5-10psi
If you haven't checked fuel pressure using a gauge you should, judging it by letting little shoot out by pushing the valve steam pin down a second or two doesn't count!
Did you give it a shot of fuel or starting fluid while cranking? if so did it start and run until shot it was given had ran out?
Did you verify when the ignition switch is turned to "run" the red wires to the injectors show bat voltage?
You say you have power and good ground but not clear what that is, I think the fuel rail might be clogged because i have power and good ground,
The connector you found yea its probably for something your truck isn't equipped with, otherwise you'd fairly quick find the other matting half, it'd be right there easy to find.
That said are you sure those wires are both solid black? does one have a light blue strip on it?
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both solid black? does one have a light blue strip on it?
checked fuel pressure using a gauge
Did you give it a shot of fuel or starting fluid while cranking? if so did it start and run until shot it was given had ran out?
(I always joke about strapping a gas can to the top because thats the only way it runs)
Other info:
My injectors noid dimly last time we checked at the shop.
I'm fairly positive the Relays are correct
I know my injectors aren't squirting fuel