Anyone running headers on their 1965 F100 352 ci.?
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Anyone running headers on their 1965 F100 352 ci.?
Anyone running headers on their 352 ci? Got to looking at my exhaust manifolds and found one busted. Dont know what Im going to do yet but are headers an option??? Do they make a quality set for a 352 ci or should I find original ehaust manifolds?
Thanks
Mark
Thanks
Mark
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One possible option to research is the Ford cast-iron shorty headers for the 390HP and 406 engines. I've got a set and a half of them. Very nice parts. I know they can fit a 1966 F250 4x4.
Here's an example in Iowa.
http://desmoines.craigslist.org/pts/4145341453.html
Here's an example in Iowa.
http://desmoines.craigslist.org/pts/4145341453.html
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i have them on my 1966 f100, with power steering. mine are patriot ceramic coated headers. fit everywhere out of the box. cant say enough nice things about them. thick flanges, 2.5 inch collectors no hammering or grinding needed to fit.
worth every penny, though i got mine for like 100 below retail. i would not hesitate to buy them for full retail.
worth every penny, though i got mine for like 100 below retail. i would not hesitate to buy them for full retail.
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trucks are one of the few applications where you can run long tube headers with no effect on ground clearance. shorties can really affect the scavenging of the exhast, and cancel out a lot of the positives gained with headers. i wouldnt bother buying headwrs unless your going to run long tubes.
also 3 inch collectors will be detrimental for the street. your not ging to see the benefits
below 5000 rpm.
jmho, not trying to ruffle any feathers here
matt
also 3 inch collectors will be detrimental for the street. your not ging to see the benefits
below 5000 rpm.
jmho, not trying to ruffle any feathers here
matt
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2zwudz, You can use listings for 390, 360, & 352 up to 1976 when the FE engine was discontinued.
I run Hooker Super Comps in my 66, I would look at the new shorties that are now available. The 2wd engine bays are pretty much same from 65 to 76, so one fit includes all.
John
I run Hooker Super Comps in my 66, I would look at the new shorties that are now available. The 2wd engine bays are pretty much same from 65 to 76, so one fit includes all.
John
Im new to these trucks so bare with me. What does the FE stand for and what are the characteristic differences between the 352 ci and the 390 ci??
Thanks
Mark
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The only way you can tell what size motor it is, is to pull the head and measure the bore. Bore and stroke will let you know. You can take a guess by measuring the stroke by pulling one of the plugs. But being able to tell what size motor it is, good luck.
352 - 428 all look the same on the out side. Well, in general. Some times, if no one has changed anything on it over the years, , you might get closer to what it is by identifying some of the parts on it. BUT......
Good luck.
352 - 428 all look the same on the out side. Well, in general. Some times, if no one has changed anything on it over the years, , you might get closer to what it is by identifying some of the parts on it. BUT......
Good luck.
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its debated what FE stands for, some say Ford Engine, some say Ford Edsel, as a version of it was used in edsel (MEL). others say F ****ing Expensive!
the difference is in the stroke and bore, obviously both smaller on the 352. The same basic block architecture, a few key differences aside, is shared by the 332, 352, 360, 390, 406, and 428. 427 is different enough i feel to be categorized by itself.
most engines can be bored and stroked to the higher displacements with factory parts. but care must be taken before over boring because they were susceptible to core shift and the cylinder walls can get mighty thin in a hurry.
the difference is in the stroke and bore, obviously both smaller on the 352. The same basic block architecture, a few key differences aside, is shared by the 332, 352, 360, 390, 406, and 428. 427 is different enough i feel to be categorized by itself.
most engines can be bored and stroked to the higher displacements with factory parts. but care must be taken before over boring because they were susceptible to core shift and the cylinder walls can get mighty thin in a hurry.
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The only definitive way to determine the engine size is by measuring the stroke.
A lot can happen in 50 years.
Im the fourth owner of my 66. Owner number two had it for 42 years.
I thought my engine was the original. it looks period correct and looks like it has been there for a long time. I was under the truck one day and found a metal tag riveted to the lower driver side of the block that's says "remanufactured by Ford".
Im guessing it is the original engine that was rebuilt by a dealer or a reman exchange engine. Who knows what size it is. Im guessing it was a 352 bored the minimum needed to meet specs.
A lot can happen in 50 years.
Im the fourth owner of my 66. Owner number two had it for 42 years.
I thought my engine was the original. it looks period correct and looks like it has been there for a long time. I was under the truck one day and found a metal tag riveted to the lower driver side of the block that's says "remanufactured by Ford".
Im guessing it is the original engine that was rebuilt by a dealer or a reman exchange engine. Who knows what size it is. Im guessing it was a 352 bored the minimum needed to meet specs.
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Mattrod68, I wouldn't argue if we are talking about a high performance app, but for a daily driver pickup truck that is very likely not going past 3500-4000 rpms, & maybe not that high, I can't buy into your theory.
Mark, The FE was first introduced in 58 in the Edsel car, Edsel is also the name of one of Henry's sons. Many accept Ford Edsel as what FE stands for but if you don't like that call it what you want, others will.
There is no basic difference between the 352, 360, or 390 where the exhaust connects on truck engines. There are a few exceptions with a couple Hi-po FEs, but they were only found in cars. You will know if you have one.
What ever you see listed for FE and truck should apply equally.
John
Mark, The FE was first introduced in 58 in the Edsel car, Edsel is also the name of one of Henry's sons. Many accept Ford Edsel as what FE stands for but if you don't like that call it what you want, others will.
There is no basic difference between the 352, 360, or 390 where the exhaust connects on truck engines. There are a few exceptions with a couple Hi-po FEs, but they were only found in cars. You will know if you have one.
What ever you see listed for FE and truck should apply equally.
John
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If it has a metal tag riveted to the lower driver side of the block that's says "remanufactured by Ford", Well, from what I think I remember being posted here, by I think ND, it is a factory 'over the counter block' - 'remanned' and/or 'replacement' one. Most likely not new. I could be wrong. Might punch it into the 'Search' box...
Factory blocks 'I believe' only came with a brass tag that was attached to one of the coil bolts when it was bolted to the top of the manifold just forward and to the right of the carb. It had motor size, date code, and ???
The tag would look something like this one: This one is for a 428 block, others will differ.
428 67 3 (FoMoCo)
6KE 401 (?) = 'A' or 'C'
SO, if it has a tag that says 'remanufactured', you still don't know what you have until you measure the bore and stroke.
Factory blocks 'I believe' only came with a brass tag that was attached to one of the coil bolts when it was bolted to the top of the manifold just forward and to the right of the carb. It had motor size, date code, and ???
The tag would look something like this one: This one is for a 428 block, others will differ.
428 67 3 (FoMoCo)
6KE 401 (?) = 'A' or 'C'
SO, if it has a tag that says 'remanufactured', you still don't know what you have until you measure the bore and stroke.
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If it has a metal tag riveted to the lower driver side of the block that's says "remanufactured by Ford", Well, from what I think I remember being posted here, by I think ND, it is a factory 'over the counter block' - 'remanned' and/or 'replacement' one. Most likely not new. I could be wrong. Might punch it into the 'Search' box...
Factory blocks 'I believe' only came with a brass tag that was attached to one of the coil bolts when it was bolted to the top of the manifold just forward and to the right of the carb. It had motor size, date code, and ???
The tag would look something like this one: This one is for a 428 block, others will differ.
428 67 3 (FoMoCo)
6KE 401 (?) = 'A' or 'C'
SO, if it has a tag that says 'remanufactured', you still don't know what you have until you measure the bore and stroke.
Factory blocks 'I believe' only came with a brass tag that was attached to one of the coil bolts when it was bolted to the top of the manifold just forward and to the right of the carb. It had motor size, date code, and ???
The tag would look something like this one: This one is for a 428 block, others will differ.
428 67 3 (FoMoCo)
6KE 401 (?) = 'A' or 'C'
SO, if it has a tag that says 'remanufactured', you still don't know what you have until you measure the bore and stroke.
John
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Coming up with what John? Shadowrider posted what is below, so I answered to it. I didn't hijack the thread. But I will butt out...........
"I thought my engine was the original. it looks period correct and looks like it has been there for a long time. I was under the truck one day and found a metal tag riveted to the lower driver side of the block that's says "remanufactured by Ford".
"I thought my engine was the original. it looks period correct and looks like it has been there for a long time. I was under the truck one day and found a metal tag riveted to the lower driver side of the block that's says "remanufactured by Ford".