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Can I upgrade my brakes from other models parts, such as dual piston calipers, different bore master cylenders, etc?
 
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For your F100? Well, all those brake parts are matched for application. Dual piston calipers would require the corresponding master cylinder and proportioning valve, etc.
 
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If you have a f100 with the car type lug pattern, yes you can upgrade to the f150 brakes, but you will need to change the complete twin I beam axle and get new rims. You should also do something with the rear so the lug patterns match.
 
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Originally Posted by The_Builder
Can I upgrade my brakes from other models parts, such as dual piston calipers, different bore master cylinders, etc?
Why would you want to do this? Will require major modifications, especially if your F100 has 5 lug 4.50" bolt circle wheels.

Dual piston calipers only found on F250/350's that have 8 lug wheels on a 6.50" bolt circle. In order to install on F100's, all the F250/350's brake/suspension parts would have to be swapped in.

Some 1980/83 F100's have 5 lug wheels on a 4.50" bolt circle, use different front/rear brakes than other 1980/83 F100's, 1980/96 F150's, both of which have 5 lug wheels on a 5.50" bolt circle.

There are differences with front/rear suspension/shocks with 5 lug 4.50" wheels.

Passenger Cars with like 5 lug 4.50" bolt circle. Their wheels will not clear the F100's 4.50" calipers.

1980/83: Two different Brake Pressure Differential Valves. 1984/89: Five different Brake Pressure Differential Valves, only one is the same as 1980/83.
 
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Ok, I understand parts don't really change over, whole suspensions do. I am depositing pad material on my disks causing brake pedal pulsing along with squealing due to my "spirited" driving style. This is unacceptable and I am willing to upgrade my calipers, disks, rotors and pads. Also, my swingarm bushings where they mount to the frame look pretty worn, along with the fact my bumpstops are within an inch of the axles. Are there any kits to offer me some better camber so I can quit squealing the tires around turns? This would probably require better outside wheel bearings as well as a way to adjust camber. This truck will never be very capable off road, I would like to make it fun on the street.
 
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It is a truck.

It is not a ricer.

It is not a Mercedes or BMW that owns the Autobahn. It is not a Corvette or Nissan 300Z.

Get over it.

I suggest you find someone that wants to trade your truck for a small euro or jap car with better handling and braking.
 
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This is my work truck and I want to make it handle a little better and not fry the brakes. There is no need to tell me it can't be done, get a ricer, etc. I do not appreciate the negativity.
 
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I have already found slotted rotors and street/track pads for it, can I adjust the camber as well as get polyurethene bushings for the ones I need to replace?
 
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
You are funny.
 
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I have already found slotted rotors and street/track pads for it, can I adjust the camber as well as get polyurethene bushings for the ones I need to replace?
You haven't said what you have on the truck. The early trucks like yours had several different versions of suspensions. If you have a king pin frontend, no you can't adjust the caster or camber unless you take it to a big truck shop and convince them to bend the axle, that's what they do on the big trucks.

If you have the ball-joint frontend, there should be a eccentric on the top balljoint that can be adjusted. Of course you can also adjust camber yourself in a primitive fashion by adjusting the ride height.

If you have the small f100 brake system, doing the f150 swap is very easy. And speedway motors has wheel adapters at a reasonable price to change your rearend over to the different lug pattern.
 
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wow, surprised to hear all the negative comments here. Usually a very helpful place.

It's never a bad idea to upgrade brakes and handling on any vehicle.

I am also interested in better brakes for my F100. I have the big bolt pattern, but I have the kingpin front end so it sounds like I have to change the whole front end.
 
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Originally Posted by The_Builder
I do not appreciate the negativity.
Originally Posted by IntheTrees
wow, surprised to hear all the negative comments here. Usually a very helpful place.

Maybe not meant to be negative, but merely being more realistic.
 
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Originally Posted by IntheTrees
wow, surprised to hear all the negative comments here. Usually a very helpful place.

It's never a bad idea to upgrade brakes and handling on any vehicle.

I am also interested in better brakes for my F100. I have the big bolt pattern, but I have the kingpin front end so it sounds like I have to change the whole front end.
Measure the rotor size and compare that to the f150. They might be the same if you already have the large bolt pattern. You could probably do all that research on a car parts site like autozone or rockauto.

I thought I heard also that the large pattern f100's had the larger discs but the system was not power assist. I don't know, they had so many variations, but of course if you have manual brakes you could convert to power for a nice upgrade also.
 
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Originally Posted by IntheTrees
wow, surprised to hear all the negative comments here. Usually a very helpful place.

It's never a bad idea to upgrade brakes and handling on any vehicle.

I am also interested in better brakes for my F100. I have the big bolt pattern, but I have the kingpin front end so it sounds like I have to change the whole front end.
I would expect these kind of answers if I was talking about my 1972 International bus, but all I'm trying to do for my skoolie is take out weight and gear it taller when I do my camper conversion so I can get upwards of 10 mpg. I posted my question because I thought I might get some help, not just condescending replies for the most part.
I just replaced all my tie rods today and that did wonders. I am going to the International Sports Car weekend tomorrow at the Circuit of the Americas here in Austin, So I'm gonna have to check on whether I have kingpins or not. Are those non- adjustable? It was dark during my work on the 100 tonight, didn't get a good look. I'll measure my rotors too n see what I'm in for. I'm pretty sure I can put the f150 sway bars on it along with the performance rotors n pads, need some better coils too, even if just a stock replacement, as well as some swingarm to frame bushings (might get a degree or two of camber out of those). Some better calipers would be awesome, especially if they are a ford replacement part(cheap). I will be back with more info and updates. Thanks for the supportive comments, I will prove the haters wrong, it's only a matter of how far I can take it
 


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