1.0 Exhaust Housing
#31
The ported housing let's you compress more air with the stock wheel without surging. The "wicked wheel" reduced surge by sacrificing how much air it grabbed. I think the ported housing is the way to go to get more air. Then add the ported housing wheel from riffraff - I think it's different than the 6/6 wheel. The ported housing wheel grabs even more air - hopefully without re-introducing surge.
DHAMSTER I was talking about another members home built turbo.
#32
I missed the banks part ...wasnt aware they made a housing for a van turbo
As far as a factory turbo goes, changing housings will never give you a bump in horsepower it will only change at what point your turbo is effective
Without changing the wheels you will not flow more air
Id say for the money a van turbo machined to fit a riffraff 38r billet wheel would be the ultimate drop in turbo... and yes it will flow as much or more air as a 38r and is rebuildable
As far as a factory turbo goes, changing housings will never give you a bump in horsepower it will only change at what point your turbo is effective
Without changing the wheels you will not flow more air
Id say for the money a van turbo machined to fit a riffraff 38r billet wheel would be the ultimate drop in turbo... and yes it will flow as much or more air as a 38r and is rebuildable
#34
The wicked wheel was actually tested on stage 2 injectors which is why I decided to pass. Plus it's 230 bucks compared to Riffraffs 6/6 at 200.
#35
rat49f6,
I have a Van Turbo. Has anyone actually machined a Van Turbo to work with a riffraff 38r billet wheel? I would be interested in this.
Thanks
Id say for the money a van turbo machined to fit a riffraff 38r billet wheel would be the ultimate drop in turbo... and yes it will flow as much or more air as a 38r and is rebuildable
Thanks
#36
#37
I know you can push the stocker Wastegate pretty high in PSI but there's got a max point and I'm hoping for in the 30s.
Are you running in stock tune or are you always running in something else to keep it from being laggy?
I've gotta go with Diehard on this one. I've heard of more people running a 1.0. It's a happy medium kind of thing. Now it's just a decision on which one to get. If we go back to the original post that's what I want to know.
Are you running in stock tune or are you always running in something else to keep it from being laggy?
I've gotta go with Diehard on this one. I've heard of more people running a 1.0. It's a happy medium kind of thing. Now it's just a decision on which one to get. If we go back to the original post that's what I want to know.
#38
#39
My response simply stated that I saw no difference between the two actuators. Did I say I did or did not get a performance gain? Don't think so. You need a beer. Or 18.
#40
#41
Not entirely sure why you think your last statement was needed. Just trying to push buttons across a computer screen?
#42
Okay I'm glad to be informed about the van turbo but what you people don't seem to get it I want to know the opinion on the two options for the 1.0..... Back to my post that started the thread....
#43
Powerstroke Turbo Rebuild Kit Upgrade 360 Thrust TP GTP 38 Ford 7 3L Diesel | eBay
I ran in 60tow 98% of the time - because it never smoked no matter what I did to it. The tune that dynoed 324HP would blow a puff smoke when taking off hard and downshifting - but rolling into the throttle would break the tires loose without ever smoking at all.
FWIW, my 38R was 'laggy' compared to stock turbo with the crap tooning I used to have.
Everyone who drove my X (including several people here) always commented about how quiet it was in the cab. Nobody ever says that about a ported housing or any of the newfangled wheels popping up every few weeks these days. Not sure if it matters to you, but I towed my 12k lb Toy Hauler almost 30k miles in 2yrs - you can't give me a quiet enough cab after 12-14hrs on the road!
Listen, I'm not trying to **** you off or even change your mind. Hopefully my babbling and limited experience has just helped ya decide what you wanted to do is what ya REALLY wanna do.
I know someone who went from stock to 1.0 housing with stock injectors, maybe that's the guy you want to hear from.
#44
You will not see much over 30psi with stock sticks anyway. Boost isn't the problem. Turbo life suffers from drive pressure exceeding boost pressure. If you plan on running tunes and using a stock turbo, a short turbo life is to be expected (that said, I did beat my stock turbo at 30psi for well over 100k miles). Something like the 360* thrust bearing may help hedge your bets fow awhile:
Powerstroke Turbo Rebuild Kit Upgrade 360 Thrust TP GTP 38 Ford 7 3L Diesel | eBay
I ran in 60tow 98% of the time - because it never smoked no matter what I did to it. The tune that dynoed 324HP would blow a puff smoke when taking off hard and downshifting - but rolling into the throttle would break the tires loose without ever smoking at all.
FWIW, my 38R was 'laggy' compared to stock turbo with the crap tooning I used to have.
With a rebuild kit, you are 3/4's of the way to a 38R with this build (not that I recommend that) and you still have to fix the up-pipes. And you still haven't gained any significant performance. Lots of money for a minor bench-HP gain at best. Not what I'd expect from a guy who started out asking about $50...
Everyone who drove my X (including several people here) always commented about how quiet it was in the cab. Nobody ever says that about a ported housing or any of the newfangled wheels popping up every few weeks these days. Not sure if it matters to you, but I towed Toy Hauler almost 30k miles in 2yrs - you can't give me a quiet enough cab after 12-14hrs on the road!
Listen, I'm not trying to **** you off or even change your mind. Hopefully my babbling and limited experience has just helped ya decide what you wanted to do is what ya REALLY wanna do.
I know someone who went from stock to 1.0 housing with stock injectors, maybe that's the guy you want to hear from.
Powerstroke Turbo Rebuild Kit Upgrade 360 Thrust TP GTP 38 Ford 7 3L Diesel | eBay
I ran in 60tow 98% of the time - because it never smoked no matter what I did to it. The tune that dynoed 324HP would blow a puff smoke when taking off hard and downshifting - but rolling into the throttle would break the tires loose without ever smoking at all.
FWIW, my 38R was 'laggy' compared to stock turbo with the crap tooning I used to have.
With a rebuild kit, you are 3/4's of the way to a 38R with this build (not that I recommend that) and you still have to fix the up-pipes. And you still haven't gained any significant performance. Lots of money for a minor bench-HP gain at best. Not what I'd expect from a guy who started out asking about $50...
Everyone who drove my X (including several people here) always commented about how quiet it was in the cab. Nobody ever says that about a ported housing or any of the newfangled wheels popping up every few weeks these days. Not sure if it matters to you, but I towed Toy Hauler almost 30k miles in 2yrs - you can't give me a quiet enough cab after 12-14hrs on the road!
Listen, I'm not trying to **** you off or even change your mind. Hopefully my babbling and limited experience has just helped ya decide what you wanted to do is what ya REALLY wanna do.
I know someone who went from stock to 1.0 housing with stock injectors, maybe that's the guy you want to hear from.
You talked about drive pressure and turbo life. The 1.0 reduces drive pressure but it also shortens the life of a stock turbo?
#45
Excessive drive pressure is generated by cranking up the fuel to get that 30psi. The larger housing will reduce drive pressure, but does nothing to 'move more air'. That's why Jim said:
Van turbo fixes both of theses issues. .. won't over boost it with stock injectors so non wastegated is great and gives you more range to use the full potential of a stock injector
This IS the cheap turbo upgrade and unless you do what Jim described and use the larger compressor wheel from a 38R - the only economical way to get more out of a 'stock' turbo.
Ultimately, 30psi is out of the map for these turbos anyway. We are just doing some of this stuff to keep them alive longer.