Damaged Truck, Poor Design is to blame!
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Damaged Truck, Poor Design is to blame!
My second hunting season with the new truck has started. Already, I have sustained damage. The front valance and support structure was damaged on a section of road that requires 4x4 only because it has some steep sections. Seems the approach and departure angles for this truck have been seriously compromised from previous models. I have had both my other Superdutys on this road without a problem. All similiar trucks with similiar set up. Last year, the truck had the front valance torn loose in deep snow. Last year was a very poor snow year, even so, I was plowing snow with the valance on several ocasions. I had to reattach. This year, easing through a wash on the main road, I contacted front valance @ the support on the passenger side. The front support is pushed back, with an ugly scar on the valance. On the return trip, I drug the towing receiver and had the snap covers on the trailer plugs pick up a rock. I have already convinced myself that I will not drive many of the roads I normally would hunt from. Strictly in an effort to minimize body damage.
I realize the valance probably has something to do with improving cooling and/or fuel economy for this truck. But for those of us that might actually use a truck for what it was purchased for, very frustrating. I just can't imagine a rancher purchasing one of these trucks and heading out to the grazing allotment to mend fence.
I realize the valance probably has something to do with improving cooling and/or fuel economy for this truck. But for those of us that might actually use a truck for what it was purchased for, very frustrating. I just can't imagine a rancher purchasing one of these trucks and heading out to the grazing allotment to mend fence.
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My second hunting season with the new truck has started. Already, I have sustained damage. The front valance and support structure was damaged on a section of road that requires 4x4 only because it has some steep sections. Seems the approach and departure angles for this truck have been seriously compromised from previous models. I have had both my other Superdutys on this road without a problem. All similiar trucks with similiar set up. Last year, the truck had the front valance torn loose in deep snow. Last year was a very poor snow year, even so, I was plowing snow with the valance on several ocasions. I had to reattach. This year, easing through a wash on the main road, I contacted front valance @ the support on the passenger side. The front support is pushed back, with an ugly scar on the valance. On the return trip, I drug the towing receiver and had the snap covers on the trailer plugs pick up a rock. I have already convinced myself that I will not drive many of the roads I normally would hunt from. Strictly in an effort to minimize body damage.
I realize the valance probably has something to do with improving cooling and/or fuel economy for this truck. But for those of us that might actually use a truck for what it was purchased for, very frustrating. I just can't imagine a rancher purchasing one of these trucks and heading out to the grazing allotment to mend fence.
I realize the valance probably has something to do with improving cooling and/or fuel economy for this truck. But for those of us that might actually use a truck for what it was purchased for, very frustrating. I just can't imagine a rancher purchasing one of these trucks and heading out to the grazing allotment to mend fence.
#6
Good input Big350.
I was going to remove mine so that I could see a little more of the bling, but aerodynamics can be a good thing too, crossed over the state line from Idaho to Utah this weekend, those boys raised the speed limit to 80 mph (which means 90 mph right?) - drive it like you stole it!
I wait until I do a Ralph before it comes off...
I was going to remove mine so that I could see a little more of the bling, but aerodynamics can be a good thing too, crossed over the state line from Idaho to Utah this weekend, those boys raised the speed limit to 80 mph (which means 90 mph right?) - drive it like you stole it!
I wait until I do a Ralph before it comes off...
#7
While I understand your frustration there are "mods" you can to your truck to improve this. As I was just reading somebody on here swapped their 4WD valence for a 2WD which is shorter and up higher. Also, there will be two steel stoppers that I assume are to prevent if you had an accident the frame from going on top of the other car. These also can be removed to increase your clearance in the front. I also plan to utilize my truck to hunt and will require it to go through similar terrain. I will take a video of the things i'm talking about on my truck. I haven't done the mod, but plan on doing it especially after talking about with my friend about removing it and now seeing 3+ threads about it. Video will be up in like 15 minutes.
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I removed mine during the first week of truck ownership, and it has stayed off. Stupidest piece of plastic ever in my opinion. Just tuck the foglamp wiring harness up into the bumper (if applicable). I see many trucks running around town with half-attached valences with large pieces missing out of it, and I'm thinking like, ok just take it off already!
I played with flipping the brackets up, and actually ran that way for some time before completely removing them.
(Man, look at how shiny my front axle was back when the truck was new!)
With a lift, it has the visual effect of making the lift look a bit taller too. Although I'm gonna go for a bumper replacement sometime in the near future anyway.
I played with flipping the brackets up, and actually ran that way for some time before completely removing them.
(Man, look at how shiny my front axle was back when the truck was new!)
With a lift, it has the visual effect of making the lift look a bit taller too. Although I'm gonna go for a bumper replacement sometime in the near future anyway.
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Lift isn't in the cards.
While lifts look cool, and do add some off-road capability, not practicle for towing. I tow 4 different trailers with the heaviest a fithwheel setup weighing in at 15k. Also, my wife is tired of climbing into my jeep which is lifted and VERY capable offroad, just not hunting compatible.
The bracket is toast. If it was intended for snowplow mounting, I hope the snow is light and the plow is small because there is more meat on my atv plow mount than on this bracket. Maybe I just don't understand the use of the bracket in a snowplow application (Most likely scenario).
Tofan, thanks, I didn't know about the 2 wheel drive valance being shorter. I will look into it. Second, the brackets will come off, I see no need for them.
Trent310, I will consider just removing it, I can't imagine much of an aerodynamic penalty with out it.
BTW, what I really need, is to replace the running boards with the moveable ones. Just can't jutify the cost just yet. I like the factory ones, they, in conjuction with the big mudflaps keep about 70% of the junk off the side of the truck. On my first truck, I crossed a frozen creek and contacted the running boards on the ice buildup and the running boards exploded doing about $5k worth of damage to side of cab and bed. I need to prevent that in the future. On my 2005 F-350 I had taken the factory boards off in the winter and driven without them. However, then I needed to pack a step for my wife (who is vertically challenged) to climb into the cab. Also, the mounting deteriated (RUSTED) to the point I could not remove them without damaging them or the truck.
The bracket is toast. If it was intended for snowplow mounting, I hope the snow is light and the plow is small because there is more meat on my atv plow mount than on this bracket. Maybe I just don't understand the use of the bracket in a snowplow application (Most likely scenario).
Tofan, thanks, I didn't know about the 2 wheel drive valance being shorter. I will look into it. Second, the brackets will come off, I see no need for them.
Trent310, I will consider just removing it, I can't imagine much of an aerodynamic penalty with out it.
BTW, what I really need, is to replace the running boards with the moveable ones. Just can't jutify the cost just yet. I like the factory ones, they, in conjuction with the big mudflaps keep about 70% of the junk off the side of the truck. On my first truck, I crossed a frozen creek and contacted the running boards on the ice buildup and the running boards exploded doing about $5k worth of damage to side of cab and bed. I need to prevent that in the future. On my 2005 F-350 I had taken the factory boards off in the winter and driven without them. However, then I needed to pack a step for my wife (who is vertically challenged) to climb into the cab. Also, the mounting deteriated (RUSTED) to the point I could not remove them without damaging them or the truck.
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The brackets are blocker beam brackets. Where a blocker beam used to be bolted between the two it would now be welded to them. However, they are in place to prevent a lower vehicle from sliding under the truck as in a frontal collision. I think you could face some liability issues by modifying or removing them should you have a wreck. If anyone remembers, the blocker beam came about with the introduction of the Excursion.
#15
Wait, what, those brackets are going to stop a vehicle from sliding under in an impact, hmmm..?
- Where did you purchase your 2WD valence B&L, is it an OE Ford thang or after market?