Egr delete of BPD egr cooler
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depends on your situation.
do you have emissions testing or any other reason why keeping the egr is a must? if so the bpd. early 03-04 and aftermarket egr coolers are very reliable and rarely fail.
personally i HATE egr and cannot stand the thought of putting exhaust back into my engine. it will coke up your entire intake manifold (spent over an hour cleaning with 5 cans of brake clean and still not perfect) it clogs up sensors, like intake air 2 temp sensor, egr valve can stick open causing issues, potential for cracked coolers if coolant level isnt maintained leading to possible major failures, potential flash boiling of coolant leaving deposits of silicates with ford gold coolant, etc etc.
BUT egr does keep the cylinders slightly cooler since it cannot be burnt again. the whole benefit, environmentally speaking, is reduced NOx emissions due to cooler combustion temperatures.
do you have emissions testing or any other reason why keeping the egr is a must? if so the bpd. early 03-04 and aftermarket egr coolers are very reliable and rarely fail.
personally i HATE egr and cannot stand the thought of putting exhaust back into my engine. it will coke up your entire intake manifold (spent over an hour cleaning with 5 cans of brake clean and still not perfect) it clogs up sensors, like intake air 2 temp sensor, egr valve can stick open causing issues, potential for cracked coolers if coolant level isnt maintained leading to possible major failures, potential flash boiling of coolant leaving deposits of silicates with ford gold coolant, etc etc.
BUT egr does keep the cylinders slightly cooler since it cannot be burnt again. the whole benefit, environmentally speaking, is reduced NOx emissions due to cooler combustion temperatures.
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Not sure on the early or late model I will be moving to Ohio and I'm not sure if they have testing. Does anyone know if its cheaper to delete or keep and replace. I was also looking at doing the arp head studs. Don't hate me for this question but are the arp head studs the same thing as the gaskets. Also putting in 155cc injectors.
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Well I don;t know about Ohio. But I am keeping mine in place and will be putting
in the BPD EGR and just turn it off with tunes from Matt.
If your going with the larger injectors you are going to want to tune anyway.
so you can kill two birds with one stone. And that way if Ohio does do inspections
you will not fail do to a missing EGR cooler.
Just check the link in my signature for the tunes from Gearhead
Sean
in the BPD EGR and just turn it off with tunes from Matt.
If your going with the larger injectors you are going to want to tune anyway.
so you can kill two birds with one stone. And that way if Ohio does do inspections
you will not fail do to a missing EGR cooler.
Just check the link in my signature for the tunes from Gearhead
Sean
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Not sure on the early or late model I will be moving to Ohio and I'm not sure if they have testing. Does anyone know if its cheaper to delete or keep and replace. I was also looking at doing the arp head studs. Don't hate me for this question but are the arp head studs the same thing as the gaskets. Also putting in 155cc injectors.
If your truck is a late '04 it will have the ICP sensor on the passenger side valve cover just behind the glow plug module and the weaker square cooler, if no ICP on the valve cover it's an early truck - no need for an upgrade in my opinion.
EGR deletes are cheaper than the upgraded coolers, and often cheaper than replacement coolers depending on who's delete your looking at.
Gaskets are large flat pieces of sealing material that go between the top of the block and the head. When you put them in place they cover all the areas where the heads touch the block. Studs are the fasteners the hold the heads against the block. They differ from the factory bolts in that they look like a threaded rod, are screwed into the block and a nut and washer go on top to tighten them in place where the factory used bolts (with heads made on them) that dropped through the head after it's in position.
Unless you plan on tuning the truck and upgrading the turbo I would hold off on the larger injectors.
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I would. Depending on the software "flash" version in your truck it can cause a check engine light and possibly mess with the operation of the engine cooling fan. You wouldn't likely notice the fan issue until the truck gets pretty hot.
Kinda on a side note, if you got no Check Engine Light (CEL) with it unplugged, you could put an EGR delete on it without needing a tuner. If you ever take the truck to a dealership and they flash the software you will get a CEL. Just leave the EGR VALVE in place and connected. Somthing to think about.
Also, there are two basic type of EGR delete. One removes the EGR cooler completely and is pretty obvious on a visual inspection. The other type, referred to as a "stealth" delete involves removing the cooler, welding some stainless plugs in each end, and bolting it back up. Even cheaper to do (especially if you know someone with a welder) and no sign the cooler has been tampered with on an inspection. Just a little more to think about.
Kinda on a side note, if you got no Check Engine Light (CEL) with it unplugged, you could put an EGR delete on it without needing a tuner. If you ever take the truck to a dealership and they flash the software you will get a CEL. Just leave the EGR VALVE in place and connected. Somthing to think about.
Also, there are two basic type of EGR delete. One removes the EGR cooler completely and is pretty obvious on a visual inspection. The other type, referred to as a "stealth" delete involves removing the cooler, welding some stainless plugs in each end, and bolting it back up. Even cheaper to do (especially if you know someone with a welder) and no sign the cooler has been tampered with on an inspection. Just a little more to think about.
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