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Old 12-10-2013, 07:56 PM
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Nice work on that Dave. I also used Jag IFS, but on my 52 GMC pickup building for my wife. I also cut off the front mounts for the IFS and welded solid to the frame, very similar to what you did. I also used the Jag donor car IRS, was an easy fit. I used the Jag booster and master cyl, figured it was all a matched package, and the price was right as it was all included with the $500 donor car. I kept the Jag funky rack U-joint and intermediate shaft, then just needed a simple conversion aftermarket steering U-joint at the top to mate with the GM column.

Do you sense I am building just like you with as much parts on hand and not spending any money unless i have to? Keep up the good work.
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Hi, thanks! Sounds like we have similar ideas on doing a build. I also had a complete 1986 XJ6 parts car, I considered taking the booster and master but the mounting system looked difficult to retrofit, maybe I should of looked closer. I still have the jag IRS stuffed in the corner, I considered it but didnt think it would handle the load of a pickup truck full of swap meet parts. Do you have a build thread? Love to see it, build threads inspire me to get to work.

So this is the pedal set I am using, 4th gen F body, same car as the engine and trans came from. I have used these before and they are nice to use because the gas pedal is part of it and it takes care of all the pedals at once. Normally just have to cut the gas pedal mount, angle it as needed, and reweld. That was done with this one as well.



Firewall holes cut for the booster and for the section of firewall I have to bump out for the clutch master cylinder



Booster mounted



This is the piece of the pedal mount for the clutch master cylinder, firewall will be rebuilt around it.



Pedal position is good, depending on the amount of throw I may have to cut and change the angle of the pedals. Won't know that until further along but it easy to change at any time as needed.



Couple exhaust options, these shortie headers will work but I would have to cut the collector off and angle it more to the rear.





These may work even better, I think these are v8 S10 headers and will also work with minor mods. Collector would have to be clearanced and the O2 sensor bung has to move.



Now comes all the work to make all these pieces actually work together safely and reliably.
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Old 12-11-2013, 09:52 AM
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Thumbs up Great Modifications !!!

I think the steering wheel Looks really cool and will look great on that Truck, Brake Booster mounted up nicely, I really Like the PEDALS they look comfortable, I'm used to my 58 F250's which are separate but kind of high and somewhat uncomfortable so those will work out Great. I Like both headers but I LIKE the S10 one's better, they look NEAT !!! now I guess whatever works out better is what to go with... Great Modifications and Really Good on the Bank $$$$ Saving Lots of money on doing all this yourself... Very Cool
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Thanks, already spinning in my head to change some of what I just did, think I am going to recess the booster into the firewall to move the pedals out a few inches. Position is really good but I think I am going to need a bit more travel and pushing them back into the cab will make it happen. Its only metal, cut a hole and then weld it back up, repeat as necessary!
Now just have to wait for another day off to get back to it.
I think the steering wheel will work fine, just need to replace the olds emblem with a ford one, something 1950s-60s. That is one thing I have not made a final decision on, just not sure what style steering wheel to run, I dont like the stock wheel, so this may do once it is painted. Olds are not well known and I doubt many would recognize the wheel as a GM piece.
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I used a pedal set from a 92 Camaro. I used a different mount that was already in my truck from the PO, Spaced the clutch and brake so they straddled the column and cut off the gas pedal, reworked the shaft and pivot so it pivoted properly and worked with the Lokar throttle cable. I'm using a SS dual diaphragm booster, the Camaro MC and clutch MC with the T56. You can see my mods and the rest in my "making changes" gallery.
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Cool, I have a 3rd gen pedal set but put it aside with the engine and trans from the car, not a whole lot different than 4th gen stuff, but this set worked with almost no mods other than changing the angle on the gas pedal.
Are you running a bench seat or buckets? Looks like I will be making a curved shifter handle to move the shifter forward a bit.
After looking at the pedals again tonight all will be good as is, worst case I may need to make the clutch rod adjustable for a little more length. With the clutch pedal on the floor I am not hitting the clutch safety switch, may or may not mean I have enough throw, been a few years since I sold my last 6 speed F body. I dont think I ever had to put the pedal down that low other than to start it. If needed I will make the clutch rod adjustable to extend it. So no need to recess the booster into the firewall.
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:45 AM
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Yeah, you can definitely find a 50's-60's ford Emblem for your steering wheel online, you just need to look what is gonna look decent and fit. As far as the pedals they looked OK to me, now when I clutch my 58 I don't have to go far down at all. I did put a new clutch in but still only a quarter way down to go through gears comfortably. So if you don't want to go though the Mod... for it, just leave it as is. Now if you want it further into the cab because it is more comfortable for you is a different story, then Do It !!! Not sure of your height.... I'm 6 ft Tall so my pedals are a little bit uncomfortable because they ride high up and individually function, so I have to bend my legs more. I wish I could move them back some but not really worth the time and effort to me. Food for Thought...
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I think I have a horn button from a 53 somewhere.
I googled it and that is a cool emblem but may be too big for the steering wheel center. Mine may be 2" max, have to measure it later tonight. Probably need something just small enough to cover the olds emblem. May go with a Ford "V8" emblem.
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Finally some time back on the build, continued with the firewall work. Made up a box to bump out the firewall and cover the clutch master cylinder mount.




And I know what you are thinking, it looks bad! Even if hidden I cant have a lump on the firewall like that. So away it goes and away goes the hole!

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So looks like I will be recessing the brake booster after all. This will also be a good thing because it will bump up the pedal throw to the factory amount of the 93 T/A the pedals came from. So the ugly box got repurposed and modded to be a booster recess.



Firewall was cut out and the box was tacked in place to check the booster and pedal positions, all looked good.



Cutout made for the clutch master cylinder



Everything bolted up, all looks good, much more of a factory look.



Pedals look good, throw is good, and now the clutch pedal has enough throw to make the safety switch. Column set in place to check clearance, all good. Next will be the floor patch for the column pass through and the gas pedal mounting. Have to tie the pedals into the dash as well. Gotta love hydraulic clutches, I can push the clutch pedal by hand and release the clutch.



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Old 12-17-2013, 12:28 AM
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Hey, at first it looked a little off, but now that You did it It looks like it came out really good, It does look like factory. Hydraulic clutch yes a lot easier on the legs, They are very smooth and easy to push in, You are going to love it. Nice job on the booster looks really good.... Cool
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Todays update!

Gas pedal mount made. Man look at those lumpy welds! I need a new liner for my welder, if the gun feed tubing isnt perfectly straight I get choppy wire feed. PITA for out of position stuff, makes em ugly but burned in nicely.



Made bracing for the pedal set, ties to dash and upper firewall. Without it the firewall would flex when the brake pedal is pushed, this took care of that problem.



Next was the floor patch for the steering column, here is my high tech method of making patches! Scrap material and scribed onto sheet metal. The black sheetmetal is from the outer skin of a 67 cadillac hood that WAS for my 67 hearse but got run over (long story You want heavy sheetmetal for cheap go cut up an old caddy.



Tacked in place, will finish weld when the pedals are back out.




Thats it for now, hope this is motivating someone to go chop up some steel !
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Your Definitely motivating me !!!! I wish I had some weldin Skills for my 58 because I would definitely do some bodywork to my metal Tank of a Truck. Pedals came out good and I would not worry too much about your seldom it still looks good.
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