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Abe, I have to disagree about the F6- F600, the two speed rear does not add a higher gearing, it adds a lower than granny gear. The F-5 came with either a 5.83 or a 5.14 (which is what I have) The F6 2 speeds were 5.83/8.11 or 6.33/8.81. So the F6 will give you more low end pulling power, but the same, and in most cases lower highway speeds.
My 56 f600 has a two speed 5.83/8.11 behind a 272 y block
 
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Abe, I have to disagree about the F6- F600, the two speed rear does not add a higher gearing, it adds a lower than granny gear. The F-5 came with either a 5.83 or a 5.14 (which is what I have) The F6 2 speeds were 5.83/8.11 or 6.33/8.81. So the F6 will give you more low end pulling power, but the same, and in most cases lower highway speeds.
Hmmm.... I am not sure about the ratios of the 2 speeds, but when I drove trucks with a 2 speed rear axle when you went from 4th low to 4th high it seemed like you were really cruising!
 
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Ray - please explain your reasoning, and any issues encountered that make the D70 not your preferred solution. Stu
I got the 4:10 Dana 70 out of a '69 F350 and it came with 16.5" stud piloted wheels, poor tire selections. I found 16" stud piloted wheels and have a better selection of tall tire sizing. From what I've learned, the Sterling with hub pilot would have been a better, same cost, choice. Perhaps research would have given me other Dana options. I need tall tires on the rear to match the low profile tires that I will install on the Firestone 19.5" that I am running on the front.
The Dana 70 was a very easy swap.
 
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Originally Posted by Chris 56 f6
My 56 f600 has a two speed 5.83/8.11 behind a 272 y block
Yeah, the 272 will give you a bit more RPM than the flathead. A safe cruising RPM for that would be about 3200, wouldn't want to run it much more than that. With 8R19.5 wheels that would top you out at about 55mph.
 
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Originally Posted by raytasch
I got the 4:10 Dana 70 out of a '69 F350 and it came with 16.5" stud piloted wheels, poor tire selections. I found 16" stud piloted wheels and have a better selection of tall tire sizing. From what I've learned, the Sterling with hub pilot would have been a better, same cost, choice. Perhaps research would have given me other Dana options. I need tall tires on the rear to match the low profile tires that I will install on the Firestone 19.5" that I am running on the front.
The Dana 70 was a very easy swap.
Okay, I've got a D70 out of a motor home squirreled away for a future project that has the matching 5 x 8" pattern. Also, for what it's worth, have the disc brakes off a motor home to see if there is any way to adapt them to the old spindles. Stu
 
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Originally Posted by raytasch
I got the 4:10 Dana 70 out of a '69 F350 and it came with 16.5" stud piloted wheels, poor tire selections. I found 16" stud piloted wheels and have a better selection of tall tire sizing. From what I've learned, the Sterling with hub pilot would have been a better, same cost, choice. Perhaps research would have given me other Dana options. I need tall tires on the rear to match the low profile tires that I will install on the Firestone 19.5" that I am running on the front.
The Dana 70 was a very easy swap.
Rickson Wheel makes coined stud piloted 19.5" wheels for the 8x6.5" bolt pattern. Not exactly cheap but would allow you to run the same size tires all around. They are also the only source of 19.5" wheels for a hub piloted sterling 10.25 axle other than having Chevy P-30 wheels opened up from 4.56" to 4.88".
 
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Originally Posted by harleymsn
Yeah, the 272 will give you a bit more RPM than the flathead. A safe cruising RPM for that would be about 3200, wouldn't want to run it much more than that. With 8R19.5 wheels that would top you out at about 55mph.
I m looking at putting x10. 10x22.5 tires on it ? Would that get me closer to 60 mph?
 
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Originally Posted by harleymsn
Abe, I have to disagree about the F6- F600, the two speed rear does not add a higher gearing, it adds a lower than granny gear. The F-5 came with either a 5.83 or a 5.14 (which is what I have) The F6 2 speeds were 5.83/8.11 or 6.33/8.81. So the F6 will give you more low end pulling power, but the same, and in most cases lower highway speeds.
FYI: our '55 F500 has the Timken 6.200/1 rear. Slow, pull a stump, but sloooow.
 
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I m looking at putting x10. 10x22.5 tires on it ? Would that get me closer to 60 mph?
That would give you approx 40" diameter, so at 3200 RPM it would give you about 65MPH. To run 60, you would be at about a much safer 2975 RPM. Of course you do realize how rare both the wheels (need a 22.5 x at least 7" 5 lug) and that tire size are?
 
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The widest 22.5" produced, with 5 x 8" pattern, has a 6.75" rim. Any wider would need to be custom made. Stu
 
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Originally Posted by harleymsn
That would give you approx 40" diameter, so at 3200 RPM it would give you about 65MPH. To run 60, you would be at about a much safer 2975 RPM. Of course you do realize how rare both the wheels (need a 22.5 x at least 7" 5 lug) and that tire size are?
I have 6 lug front and back
 
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Going from memory here, but I think Accuride #28157s are also 6.75" wide. I don't recall any 6 x 8.75" pattern 22.5s that are wider. All that said, the 6.75" rim is spec'd for a 9" tire but I believe it is also approved for the 10". I'm on the road so can't check the books. Stu
 
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