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68 Heater/AC Control Repair Ideas

I have a 67 F250 with factory air so it looks like the 68 control panel. Problem I have is PO had a froze cable and broke the lever between the panel face and the other end that connects to the board. QUestion I have is can the dual cabled lever piece be replaced or do I need to repair the existing one? If repair then weld it at the bend or JB weld will be enough? Soaked the cables and got them freed up and working fine but need to fix this to get the heater and AC controls working again. Any options would be very helpful.
 
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I have a 67 F250 with factory air so it looks like the 68 control panel. Problem I have is PO had a froze cable and broke the lever between the panel face and the other end that connects to the board. QUestion I have is can the dual cabled lever piece be replaced or do I need to repair the existing one? If repair then weld it at the bend or JB weld will be enough? Soaked the cables and got them freed up and working fine but need to fix this to get the heater and AC controls working again. Any options would be very helpful.
Mine was broken like yours when I bought it. I got a replacement off EBAY. Seller even included the cables.
 
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Ebay , got a used one with cables for $11.00
 
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68 Heater/AC Control Repair Ideas

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I have a 67 F250 with factory air so it looks like the 68 control panel.
Impossible!

Problem I have is PO had a froze cable and broke the lever between the panel face and the other end that connects to the board. QUestion I have is can the dual cabled lever piece be replaced or do I need to repair the existing one? If repair then weld it at the bend or JB weld will be enough? Soaked the cables and got them freed up and working fine but need to fix this to get the heater and AC controls working again. Any options would be very helpful.
Thread title says 1968 .. now you say 1967. 1967 A/C is totally different, uses the same hang-on chrome A/C bezel that includes the blower motor and evaporator as 1965/66 Mustang, 1965/66 F100/250.

1967 dash is one year only, so is the radio, ashtray and heater control panel, which will not fit into a 1968/72 dash.

1968/72 F100/350 with factory installed integral A/C. A/C controls located in same panel as heater controls.

You have a problem that will be very difficult to fix. The two levers ride on nylon bushings, when they crack, the levers flop around.

Ford did not sell the bushings separately, the entire panel had to be replaced, same 1968/72: C8TZ-19980-B

Left: 1968/72 Factory installed integral A/C / Right: The only Ford A/C available for 1967 also installed in 1965/66 F100/250's. 'Hang-on" A/C bezel same as 1965/66 Mustang.
 
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The truck is a 67 with factory air so it has the panel like a 68 on it instead of the 3 pull levers so I thought that was it closer to that then different. It looks more like a 68 then 67 panel but by reading what you wrote NumberDummy, I looked at a Mustang or earlier ford truck panel and mine is more like the 68. Maybe someone did a dash swap in a previous rebuild?? The issue is not the bushings but the lever itself that is broke. Bushings are still good and only one found on E-bay is 55 dollars shipped and rusted a bit.
 
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The truck is a 67 with factory air so it has the panel like a 68 on it instead of the 3 pull levers so I thought that was it closer to that then different. It looks more like a 68 then 67 panel but by reading what you wrote NumberDummy, I can look at a Mustang or earlier ford truck. The issue is not the bushings but the lever itself that is broke. Bushings are still good and only one found on E-bay is 55 dollars shipped and rusted a bit.
How about JY or craigslist?
 
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Not much here but the ones I do find are not factory air style. Top lever is single cable where mine is dual cable.
 
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The truck is a 67 with factory air so it has the panel like a 68.
No it does not. As original, 1967 did not have a A/C/Heater control panel in the dash, only 1968/72's did.

So your truck is either a 1968, or someone went thru a hell of a lot of trouble swapping a 1968/72 A/C into a 1967.

Look at the truck parts catalog pics in post 4, notice the mind blowing number of parts that make up the 1968/72 integral A/C system.

19980 is the basic Ford part number for the integral A/C/Heater Control Panel. Do you see one listed for a 1967? No, because there was wasn't one!
 
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The truck is a 67 with factory air so it has the panel like a 68 on it instead of the 3 pull levers so I thought that was it closer to that then different. Maybe someone did a dash swap in a previous rebuild?? .
Agreed. Someone swapped dashboards when they did the restoral.
 
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Agreed. Someone swapped dashboards when they did the restoral.
You say the problem isn't with the bushings, but the bushings are the problem and have been since 1968!

They are very prone to cracking, the levers flop around, and there was no fix then or now, cuz the IDIOTS at FoMoCo only supplied the bushings w/the control panel.

'Course most parts guys were on commission back then, so the more profit we made, the more money we received on our commission checks.
 
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It's been a year and a half since I did mine but I could swear my heater only style head had a dual cable set up on one of the levers. The back half might be the same between the two heads. Just the front bezel being different. You might be able to use a heater control head with your existing bezel.
 
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It's been a year and a half since I did mine but I could swear my heater only style head had a dual cable set up on one of the levers. The back half might be the same between the two heads. Just the front bezel being different. You might be able to use a heater control head with your existing bezel.
1968/72 F100/350:

A/C bezels: Left (upper): Dealer installed Deluxe A/C / Right: Dealer installed Economy A/C.

Deluxe/Economy dealer A/C's have nothing to do with the heater.

Factory installed integral A/C is combined with the heater. Sooo...the A/C controls are located in the same panel as the heater controls: Left (lower):
 
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Ahhhh. I was still stuck on the dash 19980 and the 18518/18548 cables.
 
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Ahhhh. I was still stuck on the dash 19980 and the 18518/18548 cables.
Left upper: 18518 / Right: 18548 / Left lower: 18552
 
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Thanks Bill. If OP has the economy set up (he mentioned dual cable set up) I was thinking the only difference between the 18549 head and the 19980 head being the front bezel. Maybe he could get away with an EBAY 18549 and re-using his bezel. I see the 18518 and 18548 are different but that would make sence. They would go to different places between heater and a/c.
 


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