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Old 09-29-2013, 12:51 PM
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This is probably not the correct location to ask this. If anyone knows where to do so I am glad to move this thread there.

I have a son in England who recently bought a 2000 or 2001 Ford Transit w/ a small, 2. something diesel engine.

He asked me about running straight kerosene as fuel.

What do you folks think?
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In a word, NO! Pure kerosene has almost no lubricity and will destroy his engine. He could do some mixing, but that's taking a big chance........
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they run #1 fuel most all year in Montana with out lubricity related problems, all #1 kerosene meant for motor fuel has the same lubricity modifier as #2 diesel, just gells at a much lower themp. all newer diesels have pumps and injectors designed for ULSD. the only problem would be if the fuel was kerosene for jet fuel, witch is not really kerosene, jet A and JetA1(winter fuel) are not to be confused, with kerosene Jet A is low in btu as compared to #2, however it lights easier at altitude, if it is motor fuel it is fine, less power, starts easier in the cold.
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he would have to add 3% to 5% bio fuel to the kerosene (clean veg oil, corn oil, etc.)
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All kerosene sold in the US as a heating oil (called stove oil) is dyed, and has the same lubricity as diesel ULSD #1 and#2, diesel # 1 is not kerosene but its very very similar. diesel #1 and #2 is sold dyed and undyed. diesel #1 is hard to find in Washington state for sale for as ON road use..however we haul it to northern BC and Montana in winter, for ON road and dyed #1 for tractors and construction equipment in the north. BP is the largest manufacturer of Jet fuel in the north west. you cant even pick up Gas at there Rack in Ferndale WA as it all go's down a pipeline to be mixed with alcohol in Seattle (AM/PM) gas. moter oil is not approved as a engine fuel.. but will combust in a diesel engine. zinc and other additives are not fully burned and could lead to a build up on valves and pistons if burned in high consternations in a moter vehical, Diesel #6 is (bunker oil) burned in ships out at sea, when 36 miles or closer they must burn a ligher oil or diesel #2 for EPA reasons, Atf is mineral oil its a more refined oil with some chemistry changed to meet hydraulic and very specific lubricity property's, to work with band type clutches, it just so happens that it to, can be combusted in a diesel engine. cetane of diesel is the inverse of octane, lower cetane is better in diesel, higher octane is better in gas, oil burns a little slower but would not necessarily test lower in cetane. synthetic oil burns just as good as Dino oil, just costs more..no moter oil is produced at any of the refinery's in WA state. they make most of that in Texas
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#1 diesel/kero is common up here in Alaska as a motor fuel in the winter.

Home Heating Fuel/Kerosene/Diesel is not guaranteed to be ULSD. Big stickers warning about running it in a 2007 or newer vehicle on those pumps. Some folks could legally run it, since there is a lot of places that are not on the road system here that you can drive on. It is also non-dyed as some areas get so cold that the dyed fuel causes problems.

The cost difference isn't that great, since AK has no road taxes, so before the people start saying you could get cheaper fuel and cheat.... It isn't that much cheaper and it isn't gauranteed to be ULSD. Just Low Sulfur Fuel.
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Is the warning here applicable only to the modern hipster Diesels? It was my understanding that Kero is good stuff and should burn well in old school rigs. Or maybe a Volvo or something.

When I was in the .mil there were still a very few multi-fuel Deuce and a halfs in the motor pool, that would run on gasoline or diesel, and combinations thereof. Some of the guys would always pour a can or two of ATF into their 5 tons fuel tank for a little extra somethin' somethin'. Claimed that it was clearly visible under night vision goggles coming from the stacks which trucks did this. Hm.
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Right only to the DPF equipped trucks.
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