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$10-20
Get the kit that has the install tool and comes with Loctite.

Many companies make these, perhaps the best known is Speedi Sleeve. (SKF)
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With the oil slinger bit, my 351W didn't have one either. I used a Cloyes double roller timing set, and the gears are thicker than the single roller sets.
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Matthew,
Is it keeping your balancer from seating all the way?

I have a True Street double roller in my truck as well, but don't have any issue.
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Is it keeping your balancer from seating all the way?

I have a True Street double roller in my truck as well, but don't have any issue.
Nope, mine went on and seated like a million bucks. I wonder if that Edelbrock timing set he has is the problem.
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.... but the seal is in the same place as before. ???
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.... but the seal is in the same place as before. ???
Yep, same groove, pulleys line up perfectly.
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Yep, same groove, pulleys line up perfectly.
Are you saying your balancer had a groove also?
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Yep, same groove, pulleys line up perfectly.
I meant that Piston Honda says HIS balancer is in the same place.
If it is, I doubt there is any difference in timing gears.
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Are you saying your balancer had a groove also?
Yes, it's from 231,000 miles of the seal riding there. When they were new they never had the groove.
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Are you saying your balancer had a groove also?
Everyone's balancer gets a groove with this many miles.
That's why they make a repair sleeve.
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I meant that Piston Honda says HIS balancer is in the same place.
If it is, I doubt there is any difference in timing gears.
That's what I meant .
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I called Edelbrock this morning for the hell of it and the tech told me the gear is the same thickness as the stock one. So that's the end of that.

I went to NAPA to see if they had a Speedi Sleeve but they didn't have one. I went on the SKF site but it's down for maintenance.

Received some parts today the list includes

Performance Distributors Duraspark II dizzy, module and Inferno coil
Painless Duraspark II harness
Flowtech headers
3G harness, 175 megafuse and harness
Trans Dapt alternator pulley

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I'm not even going to post a pic of the pulley, it's very poor quality and I'm sending it back. Does anyone know of a good pulley for a 3G upgrade? I looked in the "how to's" on the 3G install and it shows him switching pulleys, but he doesn't specify where he got his single groove pulley.
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Cool stuff. But it is a shame about the pulley. RJM used to have them cheaply, but that place appears to be gone.
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Here's the new headers

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The only issue is the driver side is very close to brake lines.

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Overall a much better fit.
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Looks good. A bit of bending and the brake line will be fine.
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