I've never personally seen a 4 link with just bushings. Why aren't you using heims?

 

and the reason is because it defeats the whole damn purpose of linking suspension.

with a properly setup 4 link street stability will only be an issue if you use a really low pound per inch rate spring.

i don't want to be a dick to the new guy so can someone that's better with not being a dick explain to him what i'm getting at. i'm tired, sober, and grumpy.

 

You'd probably be better off with traction bars...

 

Traction bars defeat the purpose of a properly designed 4 link.


I agree that with a 38" tire, no desire for flex and wanting easy road manners on a bushing over johnny joint budget he should've stuck with leafs and traction bars



How did I do Dan?

 

better than i would've done.

if you use bushings there will literally only be as much twist or side to side flex as the bushings will give and after a few times those bushings will be toast. you would be more or less limiting the rear to up and down travel only. not a good idea. it's like a radius arm setup but with even less movement because both ends are bushing mount instead of one end being stud mount.

 

Actually worse.....

On a 3 link deal, its OK(actually preferred on a non- flexyflexy) to have a bushing joint at the axle and a damn good joint at the frame.

On a 4 link deal (especially rear) you need side to side movement (Dan the man Brittingham) in addition to up down movement. That kills bushings. Stock type cars and low riders get away with it because their suspension moves a couple of inches rather than a foot or more like even the stiffest 4 link on 38s will do.

 

I agree with every single one of you.. but this thing flexes like a mother-effer been doing it for 8 years same bushings... been beat to hell

 

That's what I was getting at. When the suspension articulates, the link ends need to have side to side/twisting motion. That's why I compared it to traction bars, up/down movement only.

 

Like I do Have heims but I'd prefer grease-able ones who makes some dependable ones?

 

Look at Ballistic....

Forged Ballistic Joints & Bushings

The 2.63" poly bushing joints are beefy as hell...especially with a 1.25" shank and a 3/4" through bolt. Id use those on the axle end and the forged joints on the frame side.

 

Ordered in 12 poly bushing joints. And picked up these 38.5 swamps to play with update Probs tommorow

 

So you're dead set on bushings huh?

 

well i got these trail gear creeper joints same idea as the ballistic ones you linked me to

Toyota, Suzuki Samurai, and Jeep Off Road Parts

but i flexxed the dirty ferd with the fork truck today and i do see what you guys are saying. and i do agree its needs a ball style joint on the frame end. so they got ordered.

 

Maybe one day someone will realize I'm not just pecking away on my phone/computer just talking out of my @$$.

Same idea and less money . 20% off the entire order this weekend too.



Should've kept the 44s too

 

oh cmon we all know your not talking out your ***. yeah i miss the 44's but i live in canada the 44's wouldnt have been ideal to make it back to my Igloo