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Old 08-26-2013, 12:40 PM
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1954 F700 Y-block question

At work a guy bought and brought in a 1954 F700 flatbed truck with a Y-block in it, he wants us to swap the engine and transmission out with a modern diesel I6 with a modern automatic transmission so he can use it to pull the trailer that his 1967 Chevy C10 will be placed on.

My question is since the Y-block will be going to the junkyard, I wanted to know what parts should I remove from the block before letting it go to the junkyard. I have a 1956 Fairlane with a 1956 292 and I am wanting to remove some parts I can possibly use on mine or atleast use as a core exchange to save me some money.

Other question is were the Y-block powered big trucks using the same radiators as the cars? This one has a fan shrould and I might ****** that up as well to place on my fairlane even though it wont be historically correct.

My orignal goal was to ****** it all up then sell the rest but I got chewed out here at home that theres no room so now I can only take off parts I need such as the oil filter canister and bolt, the valve covers, maybe the heads, the dist for a core exchange, the glass sediment bowl fuel filter, etc.
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That F700 should have a Lincoln Y in it. Only the distributor and oil pump exchange with the other Y motors.

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the engine in this truck doesnt look like any of those. The valve covers are the typical ford Y-block valve covers with the smooth pad along the bottom portion. THeres no raised ribs around the center mount cover bolts. The air filter also looks more like the ones shown lower on the page but it has some weird adapter on the side of the block that mounts the oil filter canister like a hemi has theirs mounted where the bottom of the filter is pointed towards the front of the vehicle.

But if this isnt compatible with mine the question I have to ask is what about the oil filter canister, is that atleast compatible?
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Pictures? If it's a Lincoln, there are folks who would surely like it for parts. If it's not, high-mount fan style water pumps are getting hard to come by. Fan pulley/bearing assembly, gerotor oil pump core, six blade fan, and starter are all keepers. Do you have casting numbers? If it's a newer big truck motor, the whole thing may be desireable.
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Rusty, If the engine is original to the '54 it may just not be worth the trouble to salvage parts off it for your '56 Sedan with 292". It is either a 239 or 256" and most parts are either not interchangeable or desirable for your engine.
The distributor is a Load-o-matic and may have 13 teeth (as opposed to 14 on later distributors), the oil pump will have a 'slot' drive instead of the 'hex' drive of the later ones, blocks, heads, intake... all different.

Finding a buyer for your parts may be difficult but not impossible IF someone wanted to keep their truck original. Most people upgrade to a "newer, larger" 272/292.

Just don't plan on saving/using the parts on your engine.
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Look at the exhaust manifolds. Are the bolts all in a row (from front to back) or are the staggered (zigzagged up and down)? If they are straight in a row and Ram Horns they will be worth keeping.
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Look at the exhaust manifolds. Are the bolts all in a row (from front to back) or are the staggered (zigzagged up and down)? If they are straight in a row and Ram Horns they will be worth keeping.
As far as I can tell they are straight bolt pattern exhaust manifolds but they are not rams horn. They are the up turned manifolds. Their single exhaust with the cross over pipe across the front of the engine.

This is what confusint me is the valve covers appear to be plain old ford yblock covers as they don't have the ridge straddling the bolts as shown in the link. In all purpses to me it looks like a ford y block but then there's things like the waterpump that s the lincoln verson.

As of now the owner was told its a 292 and that the thunderbird people would pay a lot of money for the engine so he's going to try and sell it. When we have it out ill check the casting numbers and try to tell him that the tbird people wouldn't want that engine if its a lincoln yblock. Which I'm pretty sure it is.

Things I was going to try and get was the oil filter canister and the radiator fan shrould. I figure the fan shrould should work as the raditor appears idenical to the one in my 56.
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As has been mentioned, if it is original to the truck, it is not a 292. Even if it is a 292, it will be a truck version and have very little value to a T-Bird owner because it lacks the T-Bird components. That is not to say that someone may not want it, but don't be expecting $1500 for a "T-Bird Motor" because that is not what it is.

If the valve covers are Ford, the exhaust bolt pattern is Ford, it's a Ford. It will not have a combination of Lincoln and Ford parts. You can verify this here, with the block and head numbers.

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Nope, not true. Some Mercurys had the 292/312 Ford Y-Block which has the straight exhaust bolt pattern.
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OK, you got my curiosity up. What's so important about the oil filter canister. Are you in need of one? Are you aware that later Y-Blocks used modern spin on filters and the adapter in available?

The only reason I would keep a canister filter is if I had a Concours Show Car and it HAD to be original.
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