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My shift collar is broken. I just disassembled it and the upper bearing is gone so I'm sure the lower bearing is gone. Looks like I will have to replace both bearings & the shift collar. This is on a automatic tranny, power steering column.

NumberDummy, are there any NOS bearings & shift collars available?

If no NOS who out there has a good experience with repop parts?

I don't want tilt but would there be any advantages to using a Dentside non-tilt column? Is it a better design, more durable, etc?
 
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Old 08-16-2013, 07:03 PM
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My shift collar is broken. I just disassembled it and the upper bearing is gone so I'm sure the lower bearing is gone. Looks like I will have to replace both bearings & the shift collar. This is on a automatic tranny, power steering column.

NumberDummy, are there any NOS bearings & shift collars available?

If no NOS who out there has a good experience with repop parts?

I don't want tilt but would there be any advantages to using a Dentside non-tilt column? Is it a better design, more durable, etc?
Usually people do the dentside column to Get tilt and/or cruise. It can be done. It's not a plug and play type of deal. They bolt right to dash but rag joint different. Also wiring changes for turn signal switch and 4-way flashers. If you search on this and the "other" forum there is instructions out there on how to do it. I have a 1979 column slated for my Bump but I'm hesitating. I do want the tilt but the 1979 column is going to look out of place. They look different than the original bump's column.
 
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Old 08-16-2013, 08:19 PM
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I don't really like the looks of the dent coulumn so I think I'll just tackle fixing mine. I just wondered if there was some huge advantage but I just don't see it.

I just would like a Ford collar and bearing if I can find NOS. I use this truck daily so I want whatever parts I use to last as long as the originals did.
 
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Old 08-17-2013, 12:19 AM
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Here are some pics of the break and the upper bearing.
 
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Old 08-17-2013, 05:24 AM
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Anthony, Where have you looked? I live close by and picked up one from Rick at Carolina Classics last year. I would imagine that they are available many places. Over the years I have replaced a couple.

Other than length below the firewall (power steering) & dash cuff, I am not aware of column differences.

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Old 08-17-2013, 08:28 AM
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I didn't realilze that the bump and dent collar was the same up to 1977. I found the part number CODZ-7228-B and later D5TZ7228B. I found a few Ford ones online last night. My local parts store may have the I just wasn't sure about the quality. The NOS items are around $70. Donald Carpenter has new repop ones for $80, I wonder if they are any stronger with a new mix of metals.

I know realize after looking at the assembly diagram the last picture I posted is the bearing retainer. After looking at the bearing it looks good. Is there any hidden things that could make the bearing bad?

I don't always take the easy way out but maybe I can just replace the shift collar and shift isolator and be on my way.
 
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I called them today but they are on vacation. They will be back Monday so I'll place an order.

My upper bearing column bearing looks very good. If I just reuse it should it have some lube? It seems dry. They are not sealed for sure. That may be an indication that I need to replace it and the lower. I just don't know.
 
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Anthony, I imagine they are all the same potmetal repops. I would use the best price.

If you call Rick, tell him John over in Creedmoor sent you through FTE, maybe he won't charge you double.


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Hmmm, maybe I'll not mention your name. I'm going to give them a call first thing Monday morning.

Thanks to both of you for mentioning them. I've never heard of them.
 
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I got the parts ordered from Carolina Classics. They were on vacation last week so this morning he said he already had 9 orders for shift collars. His version come with the gear indicator & a new roll pin.

Rick is a super nice guy. John he said next time you come in you prices are doubled.
 
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Originally Posted by abyars111
A/T P/S column. I didn't realilze that the slick, bump and dent collar was the same thru 1977.

I found the part number CODZ-7228-B replaced by D5TZ-7228-B
WRONG PART .. this is the MANUAL shift collar!

D5TZ-7228-A (replaced C5TZ-7228-A & B ~ C9TZ-7228-A) .. AUTOMATIC Trans Shift Collar Kit - includes D3TZ-7A110-A plastic shift dial pointer / Available from Ford.

Applications: 1965/77 F100/350 & 1973/77 Bronco.

1965/72: Shift dial pointer made as part of shift collar. 1973/77 collar has a slot in it for plastic pointer to slip into.

MSRP: $65.98 // FTE Ford Dealer Parts Dept sponsor tousleyfordparts.com price: $43.55.
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Upper/lower steering column bearings (C3DZ-3517-A) and nylon sleeves (B1AZ-3518-A) are also available from Ford.

C3DZ-3517-A MSRP each: $10.68 / tousleyfordparts.com price each: $7.05.

B1AZ-3518-A MSRP each: $5.04 / tousleyfordparts.com price each: $3.33.

Tousley Ford, located in White Bear Lake MN is the closest FTE sponsor to "Alabam" -song by Cowboy Copas, who was killed in the same plane crash as Patsy Cline & Hawkshaw Hawkins.
 
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where may I find that information on wiring newer steering column 1977 put in my 1968 Ford F-250 4x4, I have no power to cab and I do not know if the wires are hooked up right, Thanks, Todd
 
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Thanks for the help!!
 
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where may I find that information on wiring newer steering column 1977 put in my 1968 Ford F-250 4x4, I have no power to cab and I do not know if the wires are hooked up right, Thanks, Todd
Maybe ask this in this place

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