FE Engine to be 390 or 406
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FE Engine to be 390 or 406
I'm replacing a bad 360 with a 390. I haven't laid hands on it yet, and a buddy of mine is sending it to me. He believes that it could be a 406. The tag on it says 390 from a 1967 model. It has a dual point distrubtor, an aluminum timing case cover, C7AE-A Heads, a 2V intake with a spacer on it, and adjustable lifters. With all this taken into account he thinks it's a 406, but I think it's possibly a transplant from a Galaxy or Fairlane. It's hard to tell from photos, and I may just have to wait to check the bore and stroke on it when I get it. It's currently about 900 miles away. The engine was pulled from a 1967 ford truck. Any help would be great.
Thank you, thank you very much.
Thank you, thank you very much.
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The engine is a "mutt" with parts swapped from lawd knows what, at one time, had A/C and P/S...and it's from a car. The vertical "Spin On" oil filter adapter (C0AZ-6881-A) is the dead bang give-away.
If the pent roof shaped "plain-Jane"* left painted blue valve cover is the original, it's from 1966, as 1960/65 engines were painted black, the valve covers were painted specific colors, as this is how FoMoCo identified the engine sizes for garages/body shops. 1966 was the first year that the entire engine was painted Ford Corporate Blue.
F100/350's with FE's came with a horizontal oil filter adapter (C5TZ-6881-A). The left rubber insulator was notorious for breaking and on 2WD's when this occurred, the engine would rear up, then come back down. If equipped with the vertical adapter, the filter would hit the engine cross member, splitting it open. Not pleasant!
No Ford truck of any year came with a factory installed 406 (or 427 or 428).
FE's available as an option in F100/350: 1965/67 F100/350 = 352 2V / 1968/76 F100/250 2WD & F350 = 360 & 390 2V / 1968/76 F100/250 4WD = 360 2V / 1974/76 F100/250 2WD & F350 = 390 4V.
406 ~ Optional: 1962/63 Ford Custom/Galaxie 500/Galaxie 500XL & Mercury Monterey/Montclair/Marauder/S-22. Available with dual quads (8V) or 3 deuces (6V).
C0AZ-12127-E .. FE Dual Point Dizzy came with 352/390/406/427/428 hipo's and was available at the parts counter, so it could have been installed in any FE engine.
1958/64 FE valve covers are rounded without holes in them for oil cap/smog valve, there's an engine oil fill tube on the right (passenger) side.
1965 was the first year for FE pent roof shaped valve covers, used thru 1976.
*1965/66 FE valve covers are plain (see pic in post 1). 1967/76's have Powered by Ford stamped on them.
Timing cover same: 1958/76 FE engines. 1958/64 FE's could have adjustable or nonadjustable rocker arms as it depended on the applications. 1965 390 Police Cruisers, 1965/67 427's and 1966 428 Police Cruisers have adjustable rocker arms, and that's it. All other 1965/76's have non adjustable rocker arms.
If the pent roof shaped "plain-Jane"* left painted blue valve cover is the original, it's from 1966, as 1960/65 engines were painted black, the valve covers were painted specific colors, as this is how FoMoCo identified the engine sizes for garages/body shops. 1966 was the first year that the entire engine was painted Ford Corporate Blue.
F100/350's with FE's came with a horizontal oil filter adapter (C5TZ-6881-A). The left rubber insulator was notorious for breaking and on 2WD's when this occurred, the engine would rear up, then come back down. If equipped with the vertical adapter, the filter would hit the engine cross member, splitting it open. Not pleasant!
No Ford truck of any year came with a factory installed 406 (or 427 or 428).
FE's available as an option in F100/350: 1965/67 F100/350 = 352 2V / 1968/76 F100/250 2WD & F350 = 360 & 390 2V / 1968/76 F100/250 4WD = 360 2V / 1974/76 F100/250 2WD & F350 = 390 4V.
406 ~ Optional: 1962/63 Ford Custom/Galaxie 500/Galaxie 500XL & Mercury Monterey/Montclair/Marauder/S-22. Available with dual quads (8V) or 3 deuces (6V).
C0AZ-12127-E .. FE Dual Point Dizzy came with 352/390/406/427/428 hipo's and was available at the parts counter, so it could have been installed in any FE engine.
1958/64 FE valve covers are rounded without holes in them for oil cap/smog valve, there's an engine oil fill tube on the right (passenger) side.
1965 was the first year for FE pent roof shaped valve covers, used thru 1976.
*1965/66 FE valve covers are plain (see pic in post 1). 1967/76's have Powered by Ford stamped on them.
Timing cover same: 1958/76 FE engines. 1958/64 FE's could have adjustable or nonadjustable rocker arms as it depended on the applications. 1965 390 Police Cruisers, 1965/67 427's and 1966 428 Police Cruisers have adjustable rocker arms, and that's it. All other 1965/76's have non adjustable rocker arms.
Last edited by NumberDummy; 07-28-2013 at 03:55 AM.
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T'was only available in 1962/63 full sized Ford & Mercury. 427 introduced mid-year 1963 (FoMoCo: 63 1/2) along with full sized Ford/Mercury fastbacks.
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If you keep the vertical oil filter adapter, use a 3/4 quart Dodge filter on it. A full size filter will hit the crossmember, crack the filter, and give you a nice oil slick on your driveway. Wanna know how I know this?
Here are some filters which should work for you:
Puolator L-2081
AC PF20
Wix 51068
NAPA 1068
Fram PH43
Chrysler 3549957
Hastings LF196
Here are some filters which should work for you:
Puolator L-2081
AC PF20
Wix 51068
NAPA 1068
Fram PH43
Chrysler 3549957
Hastings LF196
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The engine is a mutt, has a 2V carb, dual point dizzy, 1965/66 FE valve covers, idiot light oil sending unit, adjustable rockers weren't available on 390's after 1965, so the heads are from something else.
Since the 1965/72 Ford passenger car parts catalog is required to decode the engine tag, where did you get the info, since I doubt you have it?
Post the engine ID tag code, the block casting number and date code, the numbers from the exhaust manifolds.
Since all FE engines look identical, have you measured the stroke to determine it is a 390?
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They are for a York compressor. It is missing the belt tension pulley. You will also want the crank pulley that goes with it. Should be able to separate it from the rest of the crank pulleys. Honestly unless you are wanting a factory look AC unit I would go with a more modern radial type compressor & brackets.
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They are for a York compressor. It is missing the belt tension pulley. You will also want the crank pulley that goes with it. Should be able to separate it from the rest of the crank pulleys. Honestly unless you are wanting a factory look AC unit I would go with a more modern radial type compressor & brackets.
Engine pic shows an accessory double sheave outer pulley bolted to the balancer, and a double sheave waterpump pulley, as it originally came with P/S & A/C.
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I'm just tossing assumptions out there, so I don't know what it is until I can break it down and look into it. All I know from what I was told is that the engine tag said it was a 390 from 1967. I should have more info in the next coming days. Here's the other side of the block, nothing fancy but I'll post more as I get them including the engine tag. At the moment this engine is 900 miles away from me.