Big block motor mounts?
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Big block motor mounts?
LMC sells two different types of motor mounts for converting my 67 f100 to a big block, but they're expensive at $160.00 for either one and I prefer the stock style mounts. Reading on here it seems like a lot of parts from the 73-79's swap right over to the 67-72's. Can I just use a set of factory 460 mounts from a 73-79? Also, when doing the power disk brakes swap as stickied in this forum, do I need to make sure it's a big block truck for booster/master cylinder clearance? Or is everything the same small block/FE/big block regarding the booster and master cylinder and brackets?
Also, what would be a good transmission option? It currently has the factory three on the tree, and I want to stick with a manual. Either wanting a 4 speed with a low 1st gear so I can gear the rear end up, or a 5 speed to have the overdrive. It'll have a stout motor, so I need something that will hold together against the big block while pulling a car or truck on a trailer. For 5 speeds, I know the NV4500 was used on the later models behind the big blocks, but I believe they only came with a hydraulic clutch. Not sure if I'd be able to make that work properly.
A pic of the truck I was able to save from the crusher thanks to a fellow FTE'er.
Also, what would be a good transmission option? It currently has the factory three on the tree, and I want to stick with a manual. Either wanting a 4 speed with a low 1st gear so I can gear the rear end up, or a 5 speed to have the overdrive. It'll have a stout motor, so I need something that will hold together against the big block while pulling a car or truck on a trailer. For 5 speeds, I know the NV4500 was used on the later models behind the big blocks, but I believe they only came with a hydraulic clutch. Not sure if I'd be able to make that work properly.
A pic of the truck I was able to save from the crusher thanks to a fellow FTE'er.
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460 not available with a M/T until 1983, F250/350 only. 1983/97 F250/350 460's have a hydraulic clutch.
1973/79 F100/350 460 engine mount parts. All obsolete, part numbers used for clarification.
D3TZ-6028-A Right & D3TZ-6029-A Left .. Engine Supports aka towers/stands/perches.
D3TZ-6030-A Right & D3TZ-6031-A Left .. Brackets-Bolt to the block, rubber insulators bolt to these then to supports.
2) D3TZ-6038-A .. Right & Left Front Steel/Rubber Insulators.
See upper picture. Rear engine mounting parts (6A023 & 6068) related to C6, only trans available.
1973/79 F100/350 460 engine mount parts. All obsolete, part numbers used for clarification.
D3TZ-6028-A Right & D3TZ-6029-A Left .. Engine Supports aka towers/stands/perches.
D3TZ-6030-A Right & D3TZ-6031-A Left .. Brackets-Bolt to the block, rubber insulators bolt to these then to supports.
2) D3TZ-6038-A .. Right & Left Front Steel/Rubber Insulators.
See upper picture. Rear engine mounting parts (6A023 & 6068) related to C6, only trans available.
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Thanks guys. You're a wealth of knowledge. I really wanted to stay manual trans, but it looks like I may be out of luck. The 429 I have has a C6 bolted to it, so I may just go that route. I only have three of these hubcaps, but I'm on the lookout for a 4th. They're not the typical "FORD" ones, just have a strange design embossed into them.
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itsabullitt When doing the brake/steering upgrade you look for a donor that has the engine and tranny that you have or want to end up with ideally. That way you have power steering pump brackets, correct steering column, things like that.
Why not stay with the C6, it's a darn good tranny? I do believe some of the later trucks may have had AODs but check further.
As much as I love the FEs I would look at bolt up OD to help fuel mileage. A darn adapter to run OD behind a FE is over $800.00.
John
Why not stay with the C6, it's a darn good tranny? I do believe some of the later trucks may have had AODs but check further.
As much as I love the FEs I would look at bolt up OD to help fuel mileage. A darn adapter to run OD behind a FE is over $800.00.
John
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This 10 1/2' diameter hubcap was standard equipment: 1967/72 F100, 2 versions were available:
(1) Painted argent with black accents: 1967/69 Standard Cab, 1970/72 Custom. (2) Stainless steel with black accents: 1967/69 Custom Cab/Ranger; 1970/72 Sport Custom/Ranger/Ranger XLT.
10 1/2" stainless steel also standard equipment: 1967/68 Custom/Galaxie, 1967/68 Fairlane with 15" wheels.
CAVEAT EMPTOR ~ Let the buyer beware! There's another stainless hubcap that looks the same, but it's 9 5/8" diameter, installed on 1967/68 Falcon/Fairlane/Mustang with 14" wheels.
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No hubcap with "FORD" marked on it was offered for 1967/72 F100's. Correct "TYPE 3" hubcap has Ford crest.
This 10 1/2' diameter hubcap was standard equipment: 1967/72 F100, 2 versions were available:
(1) Painted argent with black accents: 1967/69 Standard Cab, 1970/72 Custom. (2) Stainless steel with black accents: 1967/69 Custom Cab/Ranger; 1970/72 Sport Custom/Ranger/Ranger XLT.
10 1/2" stainless steel also standard equipment: 1967/68 Custom/Galaxie, 1967/68 Fairlane with 15" wheels.
CAVEAT EMPTOR ~ Let the buyer beware! There's another stainless hubcap that looks the same, but it's 9 5/8" diameter, installed on 1967/68 Falcon/Fairlane/Mustang with 14" wheels.
This 10 1/2' diameter hubcap was standard equipment: 1967/72 F100, 2 versions were available:
(1) Painted argent with black accents: 1967/69 Standard Cab, 1970/72 Custom. (2) Stainless steel with black accents: 1967/69 Custom Cab/Ranger; 1970/72 Sport Custom/Ranger/Ranger XLT.
10 1/2" stainless steel also standard equipment: 1967/68 Custom/Galaxie, 1967/68 Fairlane with 15" wheels.
CAVEAT EMPTOR ~ Let the buyer beware! There's another stainless hubcap that looks the same, but it's 9 5/8" diameter, installed on 1967/68 Falcon/Fairlane/Mustang with 14" wheels.
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itsabullitt When doing the brake/steering upgrade you look for a donor that has the engine and tranny that you have or want to end up with ideally. That way you have power steering pump brackets, correct steering column, things like that.
Why not stay with the C6, it's a darn good tranny? I do believe some of the later trucks may have had AODs but check further.
As much as I love the FEs I would look at bolt up OD to help fuel mileage. A darn adapter to run OD behind a FE is over $800.00.
John
Why not stay with the C6, it's a darn good tranny? I do believe some of the later trucks may have had AODs but check further.
As much as I love the FEs I would look at bolt up OD to help fuel mileage. A darn adapter to run OD behind a FE is over $800.00.
John
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not stock, but very strong! just another option for you...
65-79 Ford Truck 2wd 460 motor mounts
65-79 Ford Truck 2wd 460 motor mounts
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I have seen 460 engines swapped in using only FE engine mounts, the 2 holes in the mounts fit diagonally to the engine block. I don't know if the engine was exactly where it should be forward to back, but it was only a few inches at most from a L&L engine mount.
I make up my own mounts by cutting polyurethane with a hole saw, or annular cutter, whatever you want to call it, some tubing and fabricate a plate with 2 tabs similar to the Autofab mounts. A little time consuming, but costs me next to nothing. I've had trouble with FE mounts breaking the rubber from the mount with a powerful motor, The Autofab type really have nothing to break.
Just adding my 2 cents worth.
I make up my own mounts by cutting polyurethane with a hole saw, or annular cutter, whatever you want to call it, some tubing and fabricate a plate with 2 tabs similar to the Autofab mounts. A little time consuming, but costs me next to nothing. I've had trouble with FE mounts breaking the rubber from the mount with a powerful motor, The Autofab type really have nothing to break.
Just adding my 2 cents worth.
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