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Ryan does your 2000 have any mods at all engine wise? our 02 F250 V10 with a few mods engine wise has pulled similar weight in 2wd up and down similar hills and didn't scream as much as your 2000 did even with an aftermarket exhaust. Actually just recently did we haul similar weight through similar sized hills and never got above 3k rpm the whole trip (20-30 miles) from dead stop to 45 MPH. Just curious being a fellow V10 owner. I know our last 02 F250 V10 (one before this one) did the same as your 2000 did screaming hauling even less weight and it was bone stock.

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Again, great time as usual. Big thanks to Crazy001 and Monster-4 for the effort they put forth!

FWIW - I drove Tom's EB empty, it's a strange feeling to have all that power down low with that motor, w/ 3.73's no less. Very impressive!

Now if we could only figure out the thought process behind the A/C blower fluctuation.
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Ryan does your 2000 have any mods at all engine wise? our 02 F250 V10 with a few mods engine wise has pulled similar weight in 2wd up and down similar hills and didn't scream as much as your 2000 did even with an aftermarket exhaust. Actually just recently did we haul similar weight through similar sized hills and never got above 3k rpm the whole trip (20-30 miles) from dead stop to 45 MPH. Just curious being a fellow V10 owner. I know our last 02 F250 V10 (one before this one) did the same as your 2000 did screaming hauling even less weight and it was bone stock.
Remember Trav, this was an effort to see how these trucks performed in a difficult situation. When you're accelerating to 60 MPH do you ever get over 3,000 RPMs? Do you think Motor Trend did when they put it on the drag strip? Of course they did!

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Now if we could only figure out the thought process behind the A/C blower fluctuation.
Good question, I can only assume that it had something to do with the engine temp; it hasn't done it again.

In other news, here's another vid to watch, matt had the left-rear wheel a good 6" in the air!

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Actually Tom we have never personally gotten our truck over 3500 RPM mashing on the gas from a dead stop nor pulling super heavy loads only time we got over 3500 RPM was in park or neutral (which my dad puts in all the time trying to go to reverse) and hits the gas. I don't get what you mean by in a difficult situation I understand that most if not all those trucks were probably overloaded and going up the hill didn't help but we have gone up a hill at dead stop. Just saying I really wish I could show y'all how our 02 performs under pressure like this but Ohio is a long ways away and building our house takes most of our time. On a side note nice video of Matts truck flexing. I really love how your truck is set up Matt.
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How you've never had your truck over 3500 rpm is beyond me.... give me the keys, I'll get it over 3500 for ya

... and just how heavy is "super heavy" ? did you ever get any of these super heavy loads scaled?
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Well let me see we hauled 5 mobile homes about the same size but 1 which was a 60 footer. According to the mobile home movers up here they all agree these older mobile homes were around 8 ton maybe a bit more. Since we have pulled the 60' 20-30 miles up hills and all (unfortunetly got no video but did get a pic I was busy being a pace car) the other 4 close to 5-10 miles. The 60' was at 45 MPH till turn in (and we did do 3-4 stops on the way all parked on a hill because of the area we were in). Have shown a pic of all the ones but one that we have towed and the 02 shows damage from 3 of them. Plus one was a 10x40 that we backed up with flat tires up a hill in 4x4 and it never got that high. Dennis I am not saying it is impossible to get over 3500 RPM in our 02 but we have never done it and my dad is heavy on the gas in that truck. For some reason every time we use the truck by the time it gets to 3200 RPM it shifts. I don't want to start a pulling fight or anything I was just trying to get some info on Ryan's truck. Sorry for getting off topic Tom.
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No worries Trav. I've had 16,000 lbs behind my Excursion a couple of months ago and it performed very similar to how Ryan's truck did. I have a THREAD in the Excursion forum that has the weight ticket.
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Well let me see we hauled 5 mobile homes about the same size but 1 which was a 60 footer. According to the mobile home movers up here they all agree these older mobile homes were around 8 ton maybe a bit more. Since we have pulled the 60' 20-30 miles up hills and all (unfortunetly got no video but did get a pic I was busy being a pace car) the other 4 close to 5-10 miles. The 60' was at 45 MPH till turn in (and we did do 3-4 stops on the way all parked on a hill because of the area we were in). Have shown a pic of all the ones but one that we have towed and the 02 shows damage from 3 of them. Plus one was a 10x40 that we backed up with flat tires up a hill in 4x4 and it never got that high. Dennis I am not saying it is impossible to get over 3500 RPM in our 02 but we have never done it and my dad is heavy on the gas in that truck. For some reason every time we use the truck by the time it gets to 3200 RPM it shifts. I don't want to start a pulling fight or anything I was just trying to get some info on Ryan's truck. Sorry for getting off topic Tom.
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It's all good Trav, no worries. I was just confused as to how you are pulling these heavy loads and not letting that V10 sing.
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Ryan does your 2000 have any mods at all engine wise? our 02 F250 V10 with a few mods engine wise has pulled similar weight in 2wd up and down similar hills and didn't scream as much as your 2000 did even with an aftermarket exhaust. Actually just recently did we haul similar weight through similar sized hills and never got above 3k rpm the whole trip (20-30 miles) from dead stop to 45 MPH. Just curious being a fellow V10 owner. I know our last 02 F250 V10 (one before this one) did the same as your 2000 did screaming hauling even less weight and it was bone stock.

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I don't have any modifications to the engine. The owner before me put a Thrush exhaust on. Did you have the overdrive turned off? I did, and as you can see, it didn't shift until we got to the top. I think if it had decided to shift for some reason, we would have been in trouble. I would be interested in maybe doing a couple mods to get a little better performance. I wouldn't want to dump a ton of money in, but a little better performance would be nice.

Tom, I definitely understand when you say that the downhills are a dangerous thing. Especially after hearing about the brakes. I feel very fortunate that they waited until the end of the day to fail. I'm glad no one was hurt, and no damage to any vehicles was done.
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Ryan, way to go man! That was a hell of a load you tugged around

That V10 sounded sweet. I agree with what you said about the OD being off... it definitely helps.
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well Dennis Our 02 is modified big time. The Po put more money into it he said then he put into his own painting shop which is right on the main drag and costs a fortune to get. I probably don't even know everything on this truck. We also get better fuel mileage then most but I know I will get smashed on about that one everytime I post about that I do. Tom great thread reading it right now. Makes me wish we had an Ex instead of a whimppy Expedition (good thing my mom isn't around she loves that little truck)
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I don't have any modifications to the engine. The owner before me put a Thrush exhaust on. Did you have the overdrive turned off? I did, and as you can see, it didn't shift until we got to the top. I think if it had decided to shift for some reason, we would have been in trouble. I would be interested in maybe doing a couple mods to get a little better performance. I wouldn't want to dump a ton of money in, but a little better performance would be nice.

Tom, I definitely understand when you say that the downhills are a dangerous thing. Especially after hearing about the brakes. I feel very fortunate that they waited until the end of the day to fail. I'm glad no one was hurt, and no damage to any vehicles was done.
Yes we always turn OD off when towing it helps a ton. I was so surprised when we did it for the first time towing a light load. Sounds about right these V10s for some reason don't shift till the last second at least our last 02 did this current one shifts right on the mark everytime. I am also glad no one nor nothing was hurt even though I wasn't hurt there was a lot of nice truck and cool people who have helped us before. I would definatly do a few small mods unless it is a Daily driver if it is and not towing much leave it stock.
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That V10 sounded sweet. I agree with what you said about the OD being off... it definitely helps.
In this particular situation it was completely meaningless; under no circumstances will the transmission attempt to shift into O/D at WOT unless something is broken. Overdrive is nothing more than the top gear of the transmission, and like all the other gears it will only shift there if the conditions are right.

The 16K load I referenced in the above post was pulled by my Excursion just fine with O/D enabled the whole way. Up and down the mountains of Vermont the conditions were never right for it to shift to 4th, but the interstates and back roads of NY it lugged along in O/D just fine.

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I disagree; it's great only if you have a bottomless fuel budget or the conditions require it.
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well Dennis Our 02 is modified big time. The Po put more money into it he said then he put into his own painting shop which is right on the main drag and costs a fortune to get. I probably don't even know everything on this truck. We also get better fuel mileage then most but I know I will get smashed on about that one everytime I post about that I do. Tom great thread reading it right now. Makes me wish we had an Ex instead of a whimppy Expedition (good thing my mom isn't around she loves that little truck)
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hey it's all good, no sweat Yes sir, an Excursion would be very cool, but anyways..... sorry fellas, back to the thread
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