I NEED HELP WITH PCM/ECM?
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06-02-2013, 08:22 PM
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I NEED HELP WITH PCM/ECM?
OKAY HERE'S THE PROBLEM. I PURCHASED A SET OF AC CODE ALIANT INJECTORS FOR MY 99 EARLY BUILD MANUAL TRANSMISSION. THE A HOLE THAT SOLD THEM TO ME DID NOT HAVE A CHIP TO RUN (HE THOUGHT I HAD A AUTOMATIC) AND HE MADE ME WAIT UNTIL HE ROUNDED UP SOME ****TY TUNE'S AND PUT THEM ON A TS PERFORMANCE 6POSITION SWITCH. OF 6 POSITIONS 4 WORKED 1 BEING STOCK AND ANOTER BEING FAST IDLE. I MADE IT 2K BEFORE THE CHIP STARTED ACTING UP MAKING THE TRUCK RUN FUNNY. I MADE IT TO THE MT BORDER AND THAN IT KILLED THE MOTOR, PULLED THE CHIP AND RAN HER ALL THE WAY TO MN. SENT CHIP BACK TO A HOLE AND HE SAYS NOTHING WRONG WITH IT, HE SAYS ITS MY COMPUTER AND THE CHIP AIN'T COMMUNICATING WITH IT. TOOK COMPUTER TO TV REPAIR GUY AND HE LAYS A BEAD OF SOLDER ON BOTH SIDES OF THE CONTACT BOARD. I RE-INSTALL DRIVE TO CA, AZ, TX, FL, BACK TO MN NO PROBLEM; HOWEVER TRUCK LOPES IN BETWEEN SHIFTS LIKE IT DOES WHEN I HAD TO RUN ON NO CHIP AND STOCK PROGRAMING. PARKED IT WENT TO WORK IN ALASKA, CAME BACK IN NOVEMBER FIRED HER UP AND HEADED SOUTH. MADE IT TO KANSAS, COMPUTER CHIP KILLED ENTIRE LEFT BANK, PULLED CHIP RAN IT TO TX, AZ, CA, AZ, AND BACK TO CA WHERE IT NOW SITS. CALLED A HOLE HE SAYS ITS NOT HIS PROBLEM, "MY CHIP IS FINE, ITS YOUR IDM" REALLY, CHIP IN TRUCK WON'T RUN, CHIP OUT TRUCK RUNS FINE BUT WITH LOPE BECAUSE OF TIMING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SPLIT SHOT AND SINGLE SHOTS. I WANT TO KEEP THE AC INJECTORS AND WOULD LIKE TO GET MY COMPUTER RE-FLASHED TO RUN EM, OR IF I CAN FIND A RELAIBLE CHIP TO RUN EM THAT WOULD BE OKAY TO. I EMAILED DP TUNES WITH NO REPLY. SORRY FOR LONG POST BUT U GOT ALL THE INFO NOW, HELPPPPPP
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06-02-2013, 08:54 PM
OKAY HERE'S THE PROBLEM. I PURCHASED A SET OF AC CODE ALIANT INJECTORS FOR MY 99 EARLY BUILD MANUAL TRANSMISSION. THE A HOLE THAT SOLD THEM TO ME DID NOT HAVE A CHIP TO RUN (HE THOUGHT I HAD A AUTOMATIC) AND HE MADE ME WAIT UNTIL HE ROUNDED UP SOME ****TY TUNE'S AND PUT THEM ON A TS PERFORMANCE 6POSITION SWITCH. OF 6 POSITIONS 4 WORKED 1 BEING STOCK AND ANOTER BEING FAST IDLE. I MADE IT 2K BEFORE THE CHIP STARTED ACTING UP MAKING THE TRUCK RUN FUNNY. I MADE IT TO THE MT BORDER AND THAN IT KILLED THE MOTOR, PULLED THE CHIP AND RAN HER ALL THE WAY TO MN. SENT CHIP BACK TO A HOLE AND HE SAYS NOTHING WRONG WITH IT, HE SAYS ITS MY COMPUTER AND THE CHIP AIN'T COMMUNICATING WITH IT. TOOK COMPUTER TO TV REPAIR GUY AND HE LAYS A BEAD OF SOLDER ON BOTH SIDES OF THE CONTACT BOARD. I RE-INSTALL DRIVE TO CA, AZ, TX, FL, BACK TO MN NO PROBLEM; HOWEVER TRUCK LOPES IN BETWEEN SHIFTS LIKE IT DOES WHEN I HAD TO RUN ON NO CHIP AND STOCK PROGRAMING. PARKED IT WENT TO WORK IN ALASKA, CAME BACK IN NOVEMBER FIRED HER UP AND HEADED SOUTH. MADE IT TO KANSAS, COMPUTER CHIP KILLED ENTIRE LEFT BANK, PULLED CHIP RAN IT TO TX, AZ, CA, AZ, AND BACK TO CA WHERE IT NOW SITS. CALLED A HOLE HE SAYS ITS NOT HIS PROBLEM, "MY CHIP IS FINE, ITS YOUR IDM" REALLY, CHIP IN TRUCK WON'T RUN, CHIP OUT TRUCK RUNS FINE BUT WITH LOPE BECAUSE OF TIMING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SPLIT SHOT AND SINGLE SHOTS. I WANT TO KEEP THE AC INJECTORS AND WOULD LIKE TO GET MY COMPUTER RE-FLASHED TO RUN EM, OR IF I CAN FIND A RELAIBLE CHIP TO RUN EM THAT WOULD BE OKAY TO. I EMAILED DP TUNES WITH NO REPLY. SORRY FOR LONG POST BUT U GOT ALL THE INFO NOW, HELPPPPPP
Just so you know, in case you want us to reflash you chip, we use our own hardware design. I would call Jonathan@no limit tuning and design for tunes if you want to use the ts hardware you have now.
Hope this helps.
Diane
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06-03-2013, 07:14 AM
Caps lock, please.
There is some useful information in the custom tune link in my signature, but it comes down to a couple of things:
Your tuning guy isn't likely an A-hole... it's more likely your truck is sabotaging the efforts to tune for the new sticks, and it's a bear to figure out what's happening without looking at the sensors with a scan tool. I found a plethora of problems with my Powerstroke that produced poor performance... and that wasn't my tuner's fault. This is very common with 10 to 14-year-old diesels.
There is some useful information in the custom tune link in my signature, but it comes down to a couple of things:
- It doesn't sound to me like your truck is 100% and the first round of problems was a loose connection when you installed the chip.
- You may have a bad connection with one or both of your Under Valve Cover Harnesses - this would cause half the engine to run.
Your tuning guy isn't likely an A-hole... it's more likely your truck is sabotaging the efforts to tune for the new sticks, and it's a bear to figure out what's happening without looking at the sensors with a scan tool. I found a plethora of problems with my Powerstroke that produced poor performance... and that wasn't my tuner's fault. This is very common with 10 to 14-year-old diesels.
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Anyways when this chip (TS Performance 6 position) quit it stranded me on a major thoroughfare in Olathe, Kansas with the rear end of my trailer blocking a extremely busy rush hour traffic lane. After an hour of diagnosing the problem I pulled the chip from my computer and stuffed it up under the dash, truck started, I pushed on the clutch, I heard a crunch, end of that piece of s___t chip.
What I think I really want is a re-flash on my computer, or a different computer that will run these injectors. Than if I want to chip that re-flashed computer I can. I need reliability and I don't have that now.
Thanks
Dave
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Really?
Caps lock, please.
There is some useful information in the custom tune link in my signature, but it comes down to a couple of things:
Mr Tugly,
Caps on for old guys that have a hard time reading small print.
Obviously truck is not %100, is it wet when it is raining????
Truck has 240K, burns no oil, and has never stranded me, except for this chip. Rebuilt transfer case at 220K, new injectors (AC Code stage 1) at 221k, new speed sensor and camshaft sensor replaced-dealer recall. Truck has custom 4" intake, 4" turbo back stainless exhaust, stage 3 methanol injector, hydrogen generator on board, Amsoil by-pass oil filtering system, coolant filtration system, Air Dog fuel preparatory fuel delivery system, 4-wheel air bag leveling system, on board 30 amp inverter (DC-to-AC), 4 battery reserve, 2-deep cycle, 2 regular controlled by a constant use solenoid, Dually conversion installed with custom fenders, custom heavy duty 2-additional leaf rear springs, last but not least 12' pick-up camper with a custom, hand fabricated 52" stinger hitch with a 10,000 lb rating.
Installed many chips, I super clean connections without excessive removal of the actual connector taking my time. Previous TS Performance hardware worked for 150,000 mile with absolutely 0 problems.
When the truck started missing and running bad, what would you do?
I scoped it at a Ford dealer, the mechanic that performed the $100 scope diagnosis informed me "you got 3 bad injectors 2-4-6. I know about wiring an immediately pulled both valve covers, and inspected both wiring harnesses.
Your tuning guy isn't likely an A-hole... it's more likely your truck is sabotaging the efforts to tune for the new sticks, and it's a bear to figure out what's happening without looking at the sensors with a scan tool. I found a plethora of problems with my Powerstroke that produced poor performance... and that wasn't my tuner's fault. This is very common with 10 to 14-year-old diesels.
There is some useful information in the custom tune link in my signature, but it comes down to a couple of things:
- It doesn't sound to me like your truck is 100% and the first round of problems was a loose connection when you installed the chip.
- You may have a bad connection with one or both of your Under Valve Cover Harnesses - this would cause half the engine to run.
Mr Tugly,
Caps on for old guys that have a hard time reading small print.
Obviously truck is not %100, is it wet when it is raining????
Truck has 240K, burns no oil, and has never stranded me, except for this chip. Rebuilt transfer case at 220K, new injectors (AC Code stage 1) at 221k, new speed sensor and camshaft sensor replaced-dealer recall. Truck has custom 4" intake, 4" turbo back stainless exhaust, stage 3 methanol injector, hydrogen generator on board, Amsoil by-pass oil filtering system, coolant filtration system, Air Dog fuel preparatory fuel delivery system, 4-wheel air bag leveling system, on board 30 amp inverter (DC-to-AC), 4 battery reserve, 2-deep cycle, 2 regular controlled by a constant use solenoid, Dually conversion installed with custom fenders, custom heavy duty 2-additional leaf rear springs, last but not least 12' pick-up camper with a custom, hand fabricated 52" stinger hitch with a 10,000 lb rating.
Installed many chips, I super clean connections without excessive removal of the actual connector taking my time. Previous TS Performance hardware worked for 150,000 mile with absolutely 0 problems.
When the truck started missing and running bad, what would you do?
I scoped it at a Ford dealer, the mechanic that performed the $100 scope diagnosis informed me "you got 3 bad injectors 2-4-6. I know about wiring an immediately pulled both valve covers, and inspected both wiring harnesses.
Your tuning guy isn't likely an A-hole... it's more likely your truck is sabotaging the efforts to tune for the new sticks, and it's a bear to figure out what's happening without looking at the sensors with a scan tool. I found a plethora of problems with my Powerstroke that produced poor performance... and that wasn't my tuner's fault. This is very common with 10 to 14-year-old diesels.
Poor performance and not running at all are 2 ends of the spectrum. This truck was probably making close to +400 horse with a 50/50 methanol blend. The only problem I have has is/was that chip. Truck runs fine without chip. I made many phone calls to many mechanics and dealers to verify I could run the rig, without damage, on stock AB injector computer programming.
Thanks for input
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06-04-2013, 08:13 AM
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Thanks Tugly,
Still wondering if anyone agrees with my chip supplier telling me my IDM is faulty and not his chip?