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Old 05-05-2013, 01:16 AM
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Upcoming 10000 mile trip. Question about engine oil.

I'm a month away from embarking on a 10000 mile trip with my 7.3 IDI van. I'm currently running conventional engine oil, but I'm contemplating running synthetic so that I only need to do an oil change once on the trip.

Most of the miles will be highway miles. The trip will span 18 days so we'll be driving most of the time. Since we don't have a lot of time to dillydally around doing oil changes, I thought it'd be good to use an oil that will last 5000 miles.

Should I run synthetic and do one oil change on the trip, or should I pack conventional oil for 2 or 3 changes during the trip?
 
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Old 05-05-2013, 02:12 AM
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If you go syn. I would call it good. Most guys that i know of run synthetic at least 10k miles. If you want to play it safe pack an extra filter and change it at your half way point.
 
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I run my powerstrokes to 5K on conventional and don't worry one bit, I wouldn't be scared at all to run an IDI which is ALOT easier on the oil to 8K, especially if it was all highway miles like your trip will be.

IF your truly worried about the oil do like hairy mentioned and bring a filter and oil, it takes 10 minutes to dump the oil and reload.

I wouldn't do the synth just because it is known to cause a few random leaks once it cleans the carbon deposits out of places, you wouldn't be to happy if 3/4 of the trip you started leaking oil....

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I always run to 5k on conventional in my truck. I usually have to top it a quart or three between changes, but I have a couple leaks I haven't dealt with.

I'd bring what you need to do a single change in the middle and just run what you've been running.

Whats the trip for? Thats a lot of miles in a short time.
 
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it sure is.10k miles in 18 days......it sounds more like work than a vacation.then again i don't recall my last vacation,so im not in the know lmao.i would toss some mobil 1 turbo diesel in her and run her.change it when i got back.take a few extra quarts with ya.though can find them everywhere.probably burn 2-3 quarts.
i run synthetic all the time,so i thought id toss in a different opinion for kicks and giggles.
 
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Thanks for the comments. I'll stick with the conventional and change it at the half-way point. Any comments on what weights I should be using? I'm using 15W40 Rotella.

I knew the synthetic could result in some random new leaks, and yeah, I don't want to have another wildcard on such a large trip, with such an old vehicle.

As for why.... Every year, my friend and I always do a roadtrip in July. This year, we are heading up to Prudhoe Bay to take a swim in the Arctic Ocean. Well, that's just our destination, but we are meeting up with lots of friends over the years that have settled in British Columbia, Alberta, Yukon, and Alaska. We'll have to pack our oil with us, because there are lots of stretches of the Alcan Hwy with no or limited services. We already did the Alaska Hwy in 2008 on a previous roadtrip, so we know what we are getting into. This will be our first trip north of the Arctic Circle.

If anyone is on this path, feel free to shoot me a message and maybe we can meet up. It's always nice to get of the road for a few minutes to shoot the s*** with a fellow FTE Diesel Member.
 
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I've read a couple times on here that synt. oil makes these older engines leak.



I've always ran conventional oil, and change it every 3-4k during my vacations with the camper. We spend most nights in Wal Mart parking lots. Takes 10 min to do an oil change in the parking lot, do it when the engine is still hot, drains so much easier and quicker!



Good luck on the trip! That should be a good one! Love long trips
 
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Any comments on what weights I should be using? I'm using 15W40 Rotella.
The godsend of all diesel oils. I run it in every diesel I own.

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Holy dear lord you people are nuts..... 5k??? 8k??? I changed my diesel at 2500 miles using nothing but Wix filters and Rotella oil... 15w40... Always conventional oil.... Had nothing but a fiasco with synthetic
 
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Holy dear lord you people are nuts..... 5k??? 8k??? I changed my diesel at 2500 miles using nothing but Wix filters and Rotella oil... 15w40... Always conventional oil.... Had nothing but a fiasco with synthetic
You'd be surprised how much TBN is still in your oil at 2,500k. Thirty years ago it was a different story but oil has come a long way since then. I'm changing mine every 3,000 on a rebuild but I know I will be able to go 5k once the engine is completely broken in. Spend $25 on a UOA and you will be surprised how much you can safely run a decent conventional oil these days
 
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wives tales!

Sounds like seals never leak if you use conventional.

I have an IDI I am about 8,000 into my 30 weight blend, I have no plans for any change. On July4th I am planning a open carry march in DC and the same oil will be in my truck when I leave and when I get home.

You guys are like teenage girls starring in the mirror looking at teen magazine



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Holy dear lord you people are nuts..... 5k??? 8k??? I changed my diesel at 2500 miles using nothing but Wix filters and Rotella oil... 15w40... Always conventional oil.... Had nothing but a fiasco with synthetic
LOL! that is complete nonsense.

Do you keep filling up at 3/4 tank too?

blind faith in the effectiveness of standard-purchase oil filters and air filters to achieve their reliability objectives
Why Cheap Air and Oil Filters Cost More

Try learning something and spend more time enjoying your truck and your life instead of being a SLAVE



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Originally Posted by Scratcher
You'd be surprised how much TBN is still in your oil at 2,500k. Thirty years ago it was a different story but oil has come a long way since then. I'm changing mine every 3,000 on a rebuild but I know I will be able to go 5k once the engine is completely broken in. Spend $25 on a UOA and you will be surprised how much you can safely run a decent conventional oil these days
you would be amazed then how my first UOA after 5 years and 40,000 miles came back "Good For Continued Use" This was some years back, bought the truck in 99 well used, engine lasted 120,000 miles before a total overhaul last year.

I broke my IDI with break in oil for 1000 miles then used 30 weight I am now at 8,000++ miles, waiting till 10,000 to take sample.


Used Oil Samples beat the hell out of internet opinions all day long



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I'd go the 10k on conventional oil no problem. Change it right before you go and if you really want to take a filter with you and just change that. Maybe take a couple extra quarts along to but I wouldn't do a full service. Use a high quality oil and 10k shouldn't be a problem. But do change it when you get back
 
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I do mine every 3k, but upon rebuild im going synthetic and a bypass filter and dont plan to ever change it unless analysis shows that i should. Toss a new filter on every 5-10k and gtg. I would not run conventional over 5k, it does break down. The extent of breakdown depends on the engine and how its used however. An old boss swore that oil changes are just a big conspiracy and would change his once a year... sometimes. The oil usually would see 10-20k sometimes more. To make this short, hes already replaced the engine in his 06 mega cab, had 160k on it. His gasser work truck has had 3 engines, its under 300k
 


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