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Old 04-30-2013, 12:14 AM
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1997 F350 DRW 7.3 Towing Capacity - bumper and 5th wheel - help

Got my eye on an immaculate extremely LOW mileage F350 XLT xtended cab automatic with a 7.3. before I purchase this beauty I want to be sure of the towing capacity. What is the bumper pull capability and the 5th wheel capability (towing). It is in stock condition at the moment I know I will be adding some upgrades for towing.

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Sky's the limit! Seriously though, what do you want to through at it? I bumper pull over 10k. Plenty of guys 5th wheel/goose neck over 16k+.
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Sky's the limit! Seriously though, what do you want to through at it? I bumper pull over 10k. Plenty of guys 5th wheel/goose neck over 16k+.
I want to get a Toy Hauler - it has a shell on it and this thing is stunning - I think a 5th wheel would pull better but its all most 2 pretty to ruin the looks to pull a 5th wheel. I plan on pulling it between Atlanta and Denver 2-3 times a year and am thinking about an Alaska trip in the next year or two as well. This is NOT a 4x4 but I think I have enough snots to pull up and over mountains??
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I want to get a Toy Hauler - it has a shell on it and this thing is stunning - I think a 5th wheel would pull better but its all most 2 pretty to ruin the looks to pull a 5th wheel. I plan on pulling it between Atlanta and Denver 2-3 times a year and am thinking about an Alaska trip in the next year or two as well. This is NOT a 4x4 but I think I have enough snots to pull up and over mountains??
What's it weigh? These trucks are somewhat gutless pulling over 10k stock. Colorado has some hard pulls to boot. 5er will definitely pull better than bumper. You'll be fine without 4x4.
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What's it weigh? These trucks are somewhat gutless pulling over 10k stock. Colorado has some hard pulls to boot. 5er will definitely pull better than bumper. You'll be fine without 4x4.
I haven't got one picked out yet - trying to get an idea what to look at per weight hauling capability's.
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I haven't got one picked out yet - trying to get an idea what to look at per weight hauling capability's.
Refer to my earlier post...
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I pull a 30ft Ragen 3 axle bumper pull toyhauler (about 12K fully loaded with fuel/toys). My truck does good towing, but I have intake, exhaust, stage 1 injectors and TS chip with Tony Wildman tunes.

Truck is a 1996 F350 CC 4x4 Auto
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Flatland, you can tow way more than you can safely stop. Interstate speeds and 12 mpg the whole day. Now mountains...that's another story.

My stock 96 (currently 2WD BTW), doesn't climb hills so well. Running in WV (I-68), 7 to 10% grades, 3000 ft tops, with a 10K trailer, is usually 3rd gear at the top of most hills. Only if I hit 4th just right, will I be able to hold it. I don't know about the automatics, but my manual gets gear-bound in 3rd on most grades. I guess 45 mph is better than the tractor-trailers doing 25 mph, but still, it gets old.

Remember these trucks were only 225hp when they left the Ford line all those years ago. But a few grand in upgrades easily puts them much better off.
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I want to get a Toy Hauler - it has a shell on it and this thing is stunning - I think a 5th wheel would pull better but its all most 2 pretty to ruin the looks to pull a 5th wheel. I plan on pulling it between Atlanta and Denver 2-3 times a year and am thinking about an Alaska trip in the next year or two as well. This is NOT a 4x4 but I think I have enough snots to pull up and over mountains??
I'd highly suggest a 5er over a bumper pull...and anyone who has done the switch will say the same.

I'd agree with the statement regarding stopping that much weight through the mountains, vs if you can pull it. Our trucks have decent breaks but they need some serious help with 16k behind them on I70.

Bone stock pulling over 12k through the mountains these trucks are absolutely gutless. I hope I don't hit a nerve with others but I'm sure other from the high altitudes states will agree, and there is no way in hell they will get 12mpg with that weight behind them, unless in the flat lands with a tail wind. I get consistently 19-21 on my truck, but once I put on 12k in a enclosed bumper pull in the mountains, that is cut in half.

I average 8-12k loads up I80, I70 and 285 to Wyoming... with the truck setup as it is now I will never drop below 4th in a manual WOT in my 140 tune. I pulled a 16,800 lb load in a gooseneck up I70...and even with stage 1's and all the truck was not up to snuff in my book. I was set in the highest tune possible and the water was flowing hard to keep it from melting down. I had never towed that much weight up 70, and going down was even more nerve racking. I use 70 for a comparison since you said Denver....and mountains... the truck will do just fine out of the mountains, but I drop my hat to anyone of these guys who can pull a 16+k 5er with a stock OBS some of these passes, its doable, but probably below 35mph and holding 2nd gear. Bigger injectors are not the only requirement...keeping it cool is even more so.


Thought I'd share that little bit... May be waaaay off the mark, but I guess I just learned the hard way thinking I had a diesel I could pull anything... my first trip on a stock truck with that much weight was quite miserable... I can't imagine a auto would make it any easier, let alone last much longer... You will see a lot off people get into big trouble coming down those passes....new and old trucks, 18 wheelers too.

Hope that helps! Can't wait to get picks of the truck! I always wanted a dually, but couln't find a low mileage 4x4 for the snow...only 4x2's.

I love the OBS trucks, and will be keeping both of mine till I bite the dust... Best HD truck FORD ever made in my book...
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For the record, I meant I get 12mpg towing in the flatlands. Easy single digits in the mountains.
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I'd highly suggest a 5er over a bumper pull...and anyone who has done the switch will say the same.

I'd agree with the statement regarding stopping that much weight through the mountains, vs if you can pull it. Our trucks have decent breaks but they need some serious help with 16k behind them on I70.

Bone stock pulling over 12k through the mountains these trucks are absolutely gutless. I hope I don't hit a nerve with others but I'm sure other from the high altitudes states will agree, and there is no way in hell they will get 12mpg with that weight behind them, unless in the flat lands with a tail wind. I get consistently 19-21 on my truck, but once I put on 12k in a enclosed bumper pull in the mountains, that is cut in half.

I average 8-12k loads up I80, I70 and 285 to Wyoming... with the truck setup as it is now I will never drop below 4th in a manual WOT in my 140 tune. I pulled a 16,800 lb load in a gooseneck up I70...and even with stage 1's and all the truck was not up to snuff in my book. I was set in the highest tune possible and the water was flowing hard to keep it from melting down. I had never towed that much weight up 70, and going down was even more nerve racking. I use 70 for a comparison since you said Denver....and mountains... the truck will do just fine out of the mountains, but I drop my hat to anyone of these guys who can pull a 16+k 5er with a stock OBS some of these passes, its doable, but probably below 35mph and holding 2nd gear. Bigger injectors are not the only requirement...keeping it cool is even more so.


Thought I'd share that little bit... May be waaaay off the mark, but I guess I just learned the hard way thinking I had a diesel I could pull anything... my first trip on a stock truck with that much weight was quite miserable... I can't imagine a auto would make it any easier, let alone last much longer... You will see a lot off people get into big trouble coming down those passes....new and old trucks, 18 wheelers too.

Hope that helps! Can't wait to get picks of the truck! I always wanted a dually, but couln't find a low mileage 4x4 for the snow...only 4x2's.

I love the OBS trucks, and will be keeping both of mine till I bite the dust... Best HD truck FORD ever made in my book...
Well put, I agree.

I used to pull a 30ft bumper pull trailer (10k or so) in stock form, and it did ok on flat land, but hills were different. It struggled some, I was geared with 3.55's too. If you see my signature, I've done many things to make it a good tow vehicle. The trailer now is a 48' gooseneck (16k or so), and it tows this way better than the truck did in stock form with the 30 footer. No comparison really. That was with my stock turbo, haven't made a pull with my new one yet.
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I agree with all of the above, especially the stopping comments. I finally put disk brakes on my 16K 5er and love them. With my srw 96 I pulled 23K triple axle 42' enclosed trailer loaded with household stull when we moved for 1250 miles twice. You do a few mods and you can pull about anything.
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Well put, I agree.

I used to pull a 30ft bumper pull trailer (10k or so) in stock form, and it did ok on flat land, but hills were different. It struggled some, I was geared with 3.55's too. If you see my signature, I've done many things to make it a good tow vehicle. The trailer now is a 48' gooseneck (16k or so), and it tows this way better than the truck did in stock form with the 30 footer. No comparison really. That was with my stock turbo, haven't made a pull with my new one yet.
I am really curious to hear how the S366 does with those mods. I am planning on upgrading next winter and it would be great to hear the real world difference behind a truck that is fairly similar in setup. I keep watching every one's build threads, and sure would like to hear how that turbo does with stage 1's.
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I am really curious to hear how the S366 does with those mods. I am planning on upgrading next winter and it would be great to hear the real world difference behind a truck that is fairly similar in setup. I keep watching every one's build threads, and sure would like to hear how that turbo does with stage 1's.
I wanted to try it out this weekend, but they are talking 40's all week and weekend with rain on the weekend, so probably won't get to. No later than memorial weekend, but maybe sooner.
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