1999 to 2016 Super Duty 1999 to 2016 Ford F250, F350, F450 and F550 Super Duty with diesel V8 and gas V8 and V10 engines
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Need Wiring Help - Factory Trailer Brake Controller

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 04-10-2013, 05:51 PM
Ginther's Avatar
Ginther
Ginther is offline
Laughing Gas
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Houston TEXAS
Posts: 848
Received 56 Likes on 37 Posts
Need Wiring Help - Factory Trailer Brake Controller

I'm in need of some wiring help.

My truck in a 2004 and currently has a cheap old Tekonsha Voyager trailer brake controller, at least I think it is. Tekonsha Voyager Trailer Brake Controller - 1 to 4 Axles - Proportional Tekonsha Brake Controller 39510



It's plugged into the factory harness under the dash. It works fine, just looks like crap. I always hated the way it was just screwed to the bottom of the dash.

When I re-did my dash - here: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...lift-pics.html

I replaced the lower half of the dash with a 2006 panel. It has the upfitter switches and I also got the factory brake controller. I removed the Tekonsha with hopes getting the factory unit to work.



The Tekonsha only has four wires - red, white, blue, and black. The pig-tail wired to it has red, white, blue, green and brown. I assume the green and/or brown are connected to the black wire somewhere under the tape.



The factory 2006 controller has the red white blue and green wires. I'm assuming those will transfer straight over to the plug where the Tekonsha was plugged in. Simple enough right?

BUT......... The factory 2006 controller also has several other wires coming out of a separate plug on the back next to the red white blue green plug.

Does anyone have any idea how to go about wiring this thing up to make it functional? Or am I doomed to use an aftermarket controller? I'd really like to get the factory unit to work and install it in the dash next to the upfitter switches where it goes.





 
  #2  
Old 04-10-2013, 06:45 PM
Dpica15's Avatar
Dpica15
Dpica15 is offline
Freshman User
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Ontario
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 3 Posts
That brake controller only works on 05-up f-superduty
 
  #3  
Old 04-11-2013, 08:45 PM
Ginther's Avatar
Ginther
Ginther is offline
Laughing Gas
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Houston TEXAS
Posts: 848
Received 56 Likes on 37 Posts
So there is no way to wire this thing up to make it work? No way at all?
 
  #4  
Old 04-11-2013, 08:51 PM
Dpica15's Avatar
Dpica15
Dpica15 is offline
Freshman User
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Ontario
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 3 Posts
Originally Posted by Ginther
So there is no way to wire this thing up to make it work? No way at all?
No, that controller has to be programmed to the trucks pcm. And on 05-up that did not have a factory tbc, you had to add a kit that also included a new brake master cylinder. 04 model year pcm are not compatible with factory tbc.
 
  #5  
Old 04-11-2013, 09:06 PM
Ginther's Avatar
Ginther
Ginther is offline
Laughing Gas
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Houston TEXAS
Posts: 848
Received 56 Likes on 37 Posts
Well that sucks.

Thanks for the explanation though.
 
  #6  
Old 04-13-2013, 11:17 AM
Ginther's Avatar
Ginther
Ginther is offline
Laughing Gas
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Houston TEXAS
Posts: 848
Received 56 Likes on 37 Posts
I guess my question now for the group is........

How can I test this factory unit to make sure it's not dead and.......

How much is it worth if I wanted to sell it - here, ebay, craigslist?
 
  #7  
Old 04-13-2013, 06:55 PM
TexasRebel's Avatar
TexasRebel
TexasRebel is offline
Cargo Master
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Stillwater, OK
Posts: 2,745
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
hmmm... did you try it?

you might be able to get it to work, it just won't be as "integrated" as a 2005 or later model.
 
  #8  
Old 04-13-2013, 07:33 PM
Ginther's Avatar
Ginther
Ginther is offline
Laughing Gas
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Houston TEXAS
Posts: 848
Received 56 Likes on 37 Posts
Originally Posted by TexasRebel
hmmm... did you try it?

you might be able to get it to work, it just won't be as "integrated" as a 2005 or later model.
I like your thinking! But no. I didn't even try wiring the normal red,white,blue, green. Maybe I will to see what happens LOL!
 
  #9  
Old 04-13-2013, 08:38 PM
TexasRebel's Avatar
TexasRebel
TexasRebel is offline
Cargo Master
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Stillwater, OK
Posts: 2,745
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
The engineer in me says there is an emergency mode. Something to keep the braking alive if the PCM communication fails.

You would perpetually be in error, but you would have trailer brakes. They would not be pressure proportional, however. They would likely be timed like most after market controllers are, but you would get the look you want.
 
  #10  
Old 04-14-2013, 08:21 AM
Ginther's Avatar
Ginther
Ginther is offline
Laughing Gas
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Houston TEXAS
Posts: 848
Received 56 Likes on 37 Posts
I tried searching the part number in the pic that is on the brake controller to see what a new one costs, but no luck. Either that's not the actual part number or it has changed over the years.
 
  #11  
Old 04-14-2013, 05:15 PM
TexasRebel's Avatar
TexasRebel
TexasRebel is offline
Cargo Master
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Stillwater, OK
Posts: 2,745
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2006 was a strange year.

They usually put them on the driver side of the console. The '05 we had at work was that way, and my 2008 is that way.

I've never seen one on the passenger side.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
skyhookdutch
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
6
02-16-2016 12:49 PM
Roscoe316
Excursion - King of SUVs
5
01-25-2014 11:04 PM
jayro88
Other; Brakes, Electrical, Hitches, Weight Distribution & CDL Discussion
5
05-09-2013 09:11 AM
Big Ruth
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
5
05-21-2010 06:05 PM
merlinke
Electrical Systems/Wiring
9
01-30-2004 08:31 PM



Quick Reply: Need Wiring Help - Factory Trailer Brake Controller



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:50 PM.