New dumptruck, odd shift pattern - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums



1957 - 1960 F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Box Style Ford Trucks

New dumptruck, odd shift pattern

Reply
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 03-20-2013, 11:26 PM
willowbilly3 willowbilly3 is offline
Post Fiend
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Black Hills of SD
Posts: 5,890
willowbilly3 has a good reputation on FTE.willowbilly3 has a good reputation on FTE.willowbilly3 has a good reputation on FTE.
New dumptruck, odd shift pattern

I just picked up a nice 59 F600 custom cab dump truck today. Although it's just the standard 4 speed, the shift **** shows this pattern
2-4-R
3-5-1
It is a white **** like all the others. In all my years I never saw a 5 speed with that pattern. Wish it had the transmission to match the ****.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-21-2013, 12:00 AM
85e150six4mtod 85e150six4mtod is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 18,743
85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation85e150six4mtod has a superb reputation
Nothing there where it shows "1"?

That may be for a Clark direct 5 speed.

The Transmission Page

I found pretty much more of the same with a search. The OD trans is marked "OD" for 5th.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-21-2013, 04:32 AM
willowbilly3 willowbilly3 is offline
Post Fiend
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Black Hills of SD
Posts: 5,890
willowbilly3 has a good reputation on FTE.willowbilly3 has a good reputation on FTE.willowbilly3 has a good reputation on FTE.
Nope, nothing where it shows "1". It looks like the same tranny as my 58 and 60 pickups have, T18 I believe.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-21-2013, 01:12 PM
FJones8668 FJones8668 is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 128
FJones8668 is starting off with a positive reputation.
Speaking of funny gear patterns, I want to find the transmission that matches the old **** that came with an ancient New Process 5 speed truck tranny!

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-21-2013, 01:14 PM
3414 3414 is offline
Elder User
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: N E Ohio
Posts: 681
3414 is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
The shift pattern you describe is for the Clark 250V 5 speed used in the F600. That first to second (non synchro) shift can be a challenge.

What someone might have done is put that **** on the T98 4 speed that was also available.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-23-2013, 07:06 PM
GB SISSON's Avatar
GB SISSON GB SISSON is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Orcas Island Wa.
Posts: 4,716
GB SISSON has a brilliant futureGB SISSON has a brilliant futureGB SISSON has a brilliant futureGB SISSON has a brilliant futureGB SISSON has a brilliant futureGB SISSON has a brilliant futureGB SISSON has a brilliant futureGB SISSON has a brilliant futureGB SISSON has a brilliant futureGB SISSON has a brilliant futureGB SISSON has a brilliant future
Dang it all to heck, Jones... Yer killin me with that 7 speed. I put a 210 cu in diesel in my f350 with a 4 speed and I wish I used a 5 speed, but always thought a 6 speed would be better. Now you show up with this...... And yes I vote it's a clark on the first one. Like the military multi fuel 6x6. My kid and I delivered a cab/chassis across the state for a friend last year. Never did get useed to that crazy pattern.........
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-23-2013, 08:37 PM
spurredon's Avatar
spurredon spurredon is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 6,417
spurredon has a great reputation on FTE.spurredon has a great reputation on FTE.spurredon has a great reputation on FTE.spurredon has a great reputation on FTE.spurredon has a great reputation on FTE.spurredon has a great reputation on FTE.
Gary, why don't you just give in and become an over the road trucker?

Diesels, tons of gears, big wheels and lots of 'em.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-25-2013, 11:02 AM
3414 3414 is offline
Elder User
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: N E Ohio
Posts: 681
3414 is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Quote:
Originally Posted by FJones8668 View Post
Speaking of funny gear patterns, I want to find the transmission that matches the old **** that came with an ancient New Process 5 speed truck tranny!

Looks like the shifter ball from a recent Fuller or Spicer 7 speed transmission. Not all that old.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-25-2013, 01:45 PM
FJones8668 FJones8668 is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 128
FJones8668 is starting off with a positive reputation.
Oh, I didn't mean to say that the 7 speed was ancient, it came to me attached to an ancient NP 5 speed truck tranny. GBSISSON, I have always wondered why they didn't use more gears in towing rigs. I have run tractor-trailers my whole life and even back when i had a pair of sticks, a 5 and 4 I still wanted more gears. Now I've been running fuller 18 speeds and that's not enough either. Why can't i have a 9 speed in my powerstroke?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-26-2013, 09:18 PM
Pickupmanx2's Avatar
Pickupmanx2 Pickupmanx2 is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Near Yosemite CA
Posts: 3,283
Pickupmanx2 is a splendid one to beholdPickupmanx2 is a splendid one to beholdPickupmanx2 is a splendid one to beholdPickupmanx2 is a splendid one to beholdPickupmanx2 is a splendid one to beholdPickupmanx2 is a splendid one to beholdPickupmanx2 is a splendid one to behold
Quote:
Originally Posted by FJones8668 View Post
Oh, I didn't mean to say that the 7 speed was ancient, it came to me attached to an ancient NP 5 speed truck tranny. GBSISSON, I have always wondered why they didn't use more gears in towing rigs. I have run tractor-trailers my whole life and even back when i had a pair of sticks, a 5 and 4 I still wanted more gears. Now I've been running fuller 18 speeds and that's not enough either. Why can't i have a 9 speed in my powerstroke?
Because to many wussies don't want to shift any more!! You can't expect them to be able to drink their latte, gab on their i-phone, watch the gps and listen to music AND shift can you?!
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-26-2013, 09:42 PM
FJones8668 FJones8668 is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 128
FJones8668 is starting off with a positive reputation.
I wouldn't drive if I couldn't shift. I've never owned an automatic and never will. The couple of times I have had to drive an automatic it never felt or sounded right and usually chose to shift for myself anyways. It makes me sad to go on to the Ford website and not be able to choose a 6 speed manual for the pickups anymore... or any manual for that matter!
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-27-2013, 06:38 AM
NumberDummy's Avatar
NumberDummy NumberDummy is offline
Ford Parts Specialist
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Hacienda Heights CA
Posts: 66,670
NumberDummy has a superb reputationNumberDummy has a superb reputationNumberDummy has a superb reputationNumberDummy has a superb reputationNumberDummy has a superb reputationNumberDummy has a superb reputationNumberDummy has a superb reputationNumberDummy has a superb reputationNumberDummy has a superb reputationNumberDummy has a superb reputationNumberDummy has a superb reputation
Quote:
Originally Posted by willowbilly3 View Post
Nope, nothing where it shows "1". It looks like the same tranny as my 58 and 60 pickups have, T18 I believe.
They're Warner T-98's (used thru 1964). No T-18's until 1965.

FoMoCo confusion: The Rating/Warranty Plate TRANS code for both the T-18 & T-98 = F
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-27-2013, 11:17 PM
GB SISSON's Avatar
GB SISSON GB SISSON is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Orcas Island Wa.
Posts: 4,716
GB SISSON has a brilliant futureGB SISSON has a brilliant futureGB SISSON has a brilliant futureGB SISSON has a brilliant futureGB SISSON has a brilliant futureGB SISSON has a brilliant futureGB SISSON has a brilliant futureGB SISSON has a brilliant futureGB SISSON has a brilliant futureGB SISSON has a brilliant futureGB SISSON has a brilliant future
Jones, after 42 years of driving, I bought my first automatic a couple weeks ago. (OK, I pretty much stole it. )Never thought I would. It's kind of like magic or having a genie shifting for you, but they never do it at the right time or place..... not really a great invention IMHO.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-28-2013, 01:14 PM
FJones8668 FJones8668 is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 128
FJones8668 is starting off with a positive reputation.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GB SISSON View Post
but they never do it at the right time or place.....

I couldn't possibly agree with you more!
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 03-28-2013, 01:34 PM
Alvin in AZ's Avatar
Alvin in AZ Alvin in AZ is offline
Postmaster
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Gadsden Purchase
Posts: 2,760
Alvin in AZ is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.Alvin in AZ is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Quote:
Originally Posted by NumberDummy View Post
FoMoCo confusion: The Rating/Warranty Plate TRANS code for both the T-18 & T-98 = F
LOL :)

From the Classic Bronco's website...
I like these line drawings from this angle, just look under your truck. ;)

T18:


NP435:


Quote:
Originally Posted by GB SISSON
It's kind of like magic or having a genie shifting for you, but they never
do it at the right time or place..... not really a great invention IMHO.
x2! :)

Here's my favorite picture of my E4od... ain't it pretty? ;)

^^^That big ol' second guessing piece of crap is outta there! LOL :)

But the weight is about the same as the ZF I replaced it with....

E4od = ~230# = ZF -with- its flywheel and pressure plate
ZF = ~145# = T18 but my T18 also has ~36# cast iron bell housing LOL :)

Alvin in AZ
Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Now here's a funny shift knob for us with HD 3-spd and 4:86 gears... pineconeford 1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks 1 01-29-2015 08:59 PM
1952 F3 3 speed shift knob Tilleyman 1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks 6 01-17-2015 10:00 AM
T98 gear shift knob 49fordv8f4 1957 - 1960 F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks 2 10-14-2014 09:43 AM
shifter handle knob mj_355 1999 to 2016 Super Duty 4 03-21-2014 10:12 AM
How to remove the shift knob on my '89 F-350? wdsloot2 Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7.3L IDI & 6.9L) 9 03-02-2013 07:04 PM


Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums >

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:35 AM.


This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. FordŽ is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.