6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 2003 - 2007 F250, F350 pickup and F350+ Cab Chassis, 2003 - 2005 Excursion and 2003 - 2009 van

Only seeing 19lb of boost WOT

  #1  
Old 03-13-2013, 11:40 AM
cg_wilson2003's Avatar
cg_wilson2003
cg_wilson2003 is offline
Junior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Houston
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Only seeing 19lb of boost WOT

On my Scan Gauge I am only seeing 19lb of boost max under WOT. I have removed all the hot and cold side boots and inspected for leaks and they were all good. Looking at VGT readings they are around 68 at ideal and around 35-38 at WOT. I have also notice that while is park at idle it is sweeping the vains as it goes from 84-0 then back to around 68. ICP reading are also in spec as I had read that could be the problem.

I will add that the truck is running great and had I seen the boost number I would have never thought anything was wrong. From reading the forum it seem most are in the 25-28lb range at WOT. Any ideas or maybe just the way my truck is?
 
  #2  
Old 03-13-2013, 11:50 AM
cg_wilson2003's Avatar
cg_wilson2003
cg_wilson2003 is offline
Junior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Houston
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I will also add the before I had the truck on 5/30/12 the turbo had the unison ring and VGT valve replaced. I have the Invoice and those were the only 2 parts listed plus the 4 hours of labor.
 
  #3  
Old 03-13-2013, 01:06 PM
Bullitt390's Avatar
Bullitt390
Bullitt390 is offline
Certified Thread Hijacker

Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 14,433
Received 48 Likes on 34 Posts
Sounds like you don't have the SG2 programmed correctly for your altitude.

Josh
 
  #4  
Old 03-13-2013, 02:45 PM
cg_wilson2003's Avatar
cg_wilson2003
cg_wilson2003 is offline
Junior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Houston
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Bullitt390
Sounds like you don't have the SG2 programmed correctly for your altitude.

Josh

Check codes in scan gauge and they are all correct for altitude and boost. Actually found a different one than I had in there originally and changed it (Bismic listed it). Took it for a spin and only got up to 17.9lb WOT.
 
  #5  
Old 03-13-2013, 03:58 PM
cg_wilson2003's Avatar
cg_wilson2003
cg_wilson2003 is offline
Junior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Houston
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Ok, did the VGT reset procedure and then test drove. No change saw 18... lb. Pulled MAP hose and sensor and it was free and clear no clogs or debris(read that might cause and issue).

Out of ideas at this point.
 
  #6  
Old 03-13-2013, 04:15 PM
nylyon's Avatar
nylyon
nylyon is offline
Tuned
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 301
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Exhaust leak? Mine's leaking pretty bad around the manifold to head and I'm getting 20-21 maximum.
 
  #7  
Old 03-13-2013, 06:29 PM
cg_wilson2003's Avatar
cg_wilson2003
cg_wilson2003 is offline
Junior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Houston
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by nylyon
Exhaust leak? Mine's leaking pretty bad around the manifold to head and I'm getting 20-21 maximum.

I checked that. Found nothing

Could it be a dirty EGR valve stuck open and bleeding off boost? IF that was the case wouldn't throw a code of some kind?
 
  #8  
Old 03-14-2013, 10:12 PM
cg_wilson2003's Avatar
cg_wilson2003
cg_wilson2003 is offline
Junior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Houston
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Pulled egr valve and it was dirty but there would be no issue with function. Pulled the exhaust back pressure sensor and cleaned out the passage. It was all clear and appeared to not have any issues. Still seeing low boost. I am out of ideas at this point.
 
  #9  
Old 03-14-2013, 10:29 PM
Piolet's Avatar
Piolet
Piolet is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Francestown, NH
Posts: 1,693
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Do you have a fuel pressure gauge or have you updated to the blue spring?
 
  #10  
Old 03-14-2013, 10:43 PM
cg_wilson2003's Avatar
cg_wilson2003
cg_wilson2003 is offline
Junior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Houston
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Piolet
Do you have a fuel pressure gauge or have you updated to the blue spring?
Do not have a fuel pressure gauge but do have the blue spring installed. Fuel filters are relatively new but this condition has always been present just finally realized it was not correct.
 
  #11  
Old 03-14-2013, 11:40 PM
BLADE35's Avatar
BLADE35
BLADE35 is online now
Hotshot
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Saratoga Springs,UT
Posts: 18,706
Received 58 Likes on 41 Posts
03 relies on BARO and MAP and MAF for turbo calibration

Post BARO & MAP at KOEO low idel and high idel (2500rpm)

then Put it in 3rd Gear and go WOT this will Load Engine It and see what you get for Boost
 
  #12  
Old 03-15-2013, 12:34 PM
cg_wilson2003's Avatar
cg_wilson2003
cg_wilson2003 is offline
Junior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Houston
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by BLADE35
03 relies on BARO and MAP and MAF for turbo calibration

Post BARO & MAP at KOEO low idel and high idel (2500rpm)

then Put it in 3rd Gear and go WOT this will Load Engine It and see what you get for Boost
First thanks for the help. I am stumped.

BMP 14.7 KOEO
MAP 14.4 KOEO

BMP 14.7 LI
MAP 14.3 LI

BMP 14.7 HI
MAP 15.0 HI

BMP 14.7 WOT
MAP 30.1 WOT
Max Boost seen 16.3lb WOT 3rd gear
 
  #13  
Old 03-15-2013, 04:18 PM
f-350 turbo's Avatar
f-350 turbo
f-350 turbo is offline
Mountain Pass
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: phoenix
Posts: 155
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Could a dusted turbo or clogged air filter be the problem? I've heard that someone had a birds or rats nest in the intake of the filter. Just a long shot guess.
 
  #14  
Old 03-15-2013, 04:43 PM
cg_wilson2003's Avatar
cg_wilson2003
cg_wilson2003 is offline
Junior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Houston
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by f-350 turbo
Could a dusted turbo or clogged air filter be the problem? I've heard that someone had a birds or rats nest in the intake of the filter. Just a long shot guess.
Had that all apart as recently as last night. The air filter is good acording to the gauge.
 
  #15  
Old 03-15-2013, 05:46 PM
BLADE35's Avatar
BLADE35
BLADE35 is online now
Hotshot
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Saratoga Springs,UT
Posts: 18,706
Received 58 Likes on 41 Posts
Originally Posted by cg_wilson2003
First thanks for the help. I am stumped.

BMP 14.7 KOEO
MAP 14.4 KOEO

BMP 14.7 LI
MAP 14.3 LI

BMP 14.7 HI
MAP 15.0 HI

BMP 14.7 WOT
MAP 30.1 WOT
Max Boost seen 16.3lb WOT 3rd gear


Well it looks like the Map and Baro sensors are Good


Post the Boost Code you are using for the SGII



When you checked for leaks did you check the Exhaust Uppipes from the exhaust manafold all the way to the Turbo??????

I would check when truck is Cold By starting the truck and then feel around each exhaust joint and the Flex joints and see if you can feel air blowing out the uppipes
The flex joint is a Common spot to develope a Leak

Also sprat CAC Boots with soapy water and check for Bubbles at Idel
 

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Only seeing 19lb of boost WOT



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:56 AM.