1967 - 1972 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Bumpsides Ford Truck

My 1970 F100 Flareside (Pic Heavy)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #136  
Old 12-13-2014, 01:31 PM
Gembone's Avatar
Gembone
Gembone is offline
Logistics Pro
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 4,276
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
Thanks for finding the shifter boot for me Jeff. It made such a difference.
 
  #137  
Old 12-13-2014, 01:34 PM
JEFFFAFA's Avatar
JEFFFAFA
JEFFFAFA is offline
Hotshot
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Phoenix, Az.
Posts: 14,196
Received 169 Likes on 149 Posts
Originally Posted by Gembone
Thanks for finding the shifter boot for me Jeff. It made such a difference.
You're welcome Buddy. Any time. We have to keep that road draft off the Minion!
 
  #138  
Old 12-13-2014, 01:44 PM
Gembone's Avatar
Gembone
Gembone is offline
Logistics Pro
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 4,276
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
I have decided to build the new motor and then put it in the truck. It will be a bit before I have the funds for the machine shop and all the possible parts it will need.
This means the floor mat and door/window seals will have to wait.

I started a thread in the inline6 forums https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post14894768
I am looking for upgrade advice for functionality, not performance. I want it to be relatively stock. here is what I am planing so far.
switching the manifold bolts to studs.
new non-nylon timing gears.
pertronix I
new lifters
possibly push rods, not sure if this is something really needed unless they are bent or damaged.
valve seals
cam/crank/main bearings
piston rings
water pump
oil pump
carb rebuild
fuel pump

feel free to add to the ideas or needed/recommended parts list
 
  #139  
Old 12-13-2014, 03:20 PM
JEFFFAFA's Avatar
JEFFFAFA
JEFFFAFA is offline
Hotshot
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Phoenix, Az.
Posts: 14,196
Received 169 Likes on 149 Posts
valve job.
pistons of whatever size it will take to clean up the cyliners.
pushrods prolly won't be necessary so keep the positions of the old ones and their rocker arms together.
tune up parts
all fluids.
misc rubber products.
gaskets and seals.
If ya rob Hio's bank to pay for this be carefull which money ya grab.
 
  #140  
Old 12-13-2014, 03:31 PM
Gembone's Avatar
Gembone
Gembone is offline
Logistics Pro
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 4,276
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
I already have a full gasket set and new style one piece oil pan gasket. I figured the fluids and tune up parts were and automatic.

The valves and pistons are only if needed. I am hoping it won't need to be bored out. Valves might be a necessary evil. I will only find that out once I can afford for it to get to the machine shop. Will also have them checking the piston wrist pins
 
  #141  
Old 01-04-2015, 09:14 PM
Gembone's Avatar
Gembone
Gembone is offline
Logistics Pro
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 4,276
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
OK, the engine tear down began today. I still need to get my engine stand from my buddy's house so I just worked on the top end.

I took several pics as I was going so if anyone sees something amiss let me know.

here is the beginning.


here are the manifolds after removal. No broken tabs or bolts! Also the exhaust manifold is not cracked, unlike the one currently on the truck.



Manifold #'s





valve cover removed. Internals are extremely clean





inspection cover removed



Head removed with gasket still attached.



without gasket



Pistons all look good other than lots of carbon build up.



little tag and bag going on



I also removed the clutch (which is new!) and the harmonic balancer but don't have pics of that.

Finally some progress at last.
 
  #142  
Old 01-04-2015, 09:33 PM
HIO Silver's Avatar
HIO Silver
HIO Silver is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: NorCal
Posts: 20,676
Received 58 Likes on 48 Posts
Before turning the parts into the machine shop, I suggest gasket-matching the intake and exhaust ports. It,s not tog hog them out but rather to smooth the air flow and by removing the casting roughness... about the first inch of each passage is all it takes. A couple of carbide bits and a box of cartridge rolls is about $50 from Summit.
 
  #143  
Old 01-04-2015, 09:42 PM
Gembone's Avatar
Gembone
Gembone is offline
Logistics Pro
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 4,276
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
Thanks for the tip. I will take a look at that. I have a couple weeks before the parts will make their way to the machine shop so I have some time.
 
  #144  
Old 01-05-2015, 11:03 AM
JEFFFAFA's Avatar
JEFFFAFA
JEFFFAFA is offline
Hotshot
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Phoenix, Az.
Posts: 14,196
Received 169 Likes on 149 Posts
Most excellent! I'm glad to see the insides are so clean. I was worried about it once I saw the brand of oil filter on it. Any ringland?
 
  #145  
Old 01-05-2015, 11:06 AM
Gembone's Avatar
Gembone
Gembone is offline
Logistics Pro
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 4,276
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
Originally Posted by JEFFFAFA
Any ringland?
What is this?
 
  #146  
Old 01-05-2015, 11:26 AM
JEFFFAFA's Avatar
JEFFFAFA
JEFFFAFA is offline
Hotshot
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Phoenix, Az.
Posts: 14,196
Received 169 Likes on 149 Posts
Originally Posted by Gembone
What is this?
A ridge at the very top of the cylinders. It's there if the rings have worn in to the cylinders below it.
 
  #147  
Old 01-05-2015, 11:51 AM
Gembone's Avatar
Gembone
Gembone is offline
Logistics Pro
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 4,276
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
I haven't cleaned out the cylinder walls yet. Lots of carbon build up for sure.
 
  #148  
Old 01-05-2015, 01:09 PM
orich's Avatar
orich
orich is offline
Lead Driver
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: **** hole San Jose ca.
Posts: 7,592
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
Here's an old tip that I've done & used for 55 yrs.
Tee'd off my mom when got them greasy, but got to keep them for the next pull engine down.
I use numbered old style spring closed clothes pins on one end of the push rods.

Works better then tape.

Orich
 
  #149  
Old 01-05-2015, 01:18 PM
ultraranger's Avatar
ultraranger
ultraranger is offline
Lead Driver
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Camden, Arkansas
Posts: 6,398
Likes: 0
Received 26 Likes on 23 Posts
Originally Posted by Gembone
I have decided to build the new motor and then put it in the truck....

....feel free to add to the ideas or needed/recommended parts list
I don't know the overall condition of your truck or what all has or hasn't been done to it. If little or no attention has been given to the brakes or the steering/suspension, this is the area I would overhaul/go through, first, if it was my truck.

The motivation of a fresh engine (especially in the cases where the engine is powerful and will propel the vehicle to a high rate of speed in a short distance) is fun and all that, but it isn't much fun if you can't bring the vehicle to a (controlled) stop, --quickly.

I know your six banger, like mine, isn't going to be a screamin' demon but a fresh engine is going to run stonger.

The brakes are THE most important system of a vehicle, followed by the steering/suspension. If either one of these isn't up to par, starting with the engine is going backwards, to me. If either the brakes or steering/suspension are marginal with the stock engine, a stronger engine is only going to make their weaknesses more pronounced.

Ultimately, it's your truck, money and time and you decide what area to work on and in what order.
 
  #150  
Old 01-05-2015, 01:32 PM
JEFFFAFA's Avatar
JEFFFAFA
JEFFFAFA is offline
Hotshot
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Phoenix, Az.
Posts: 14,196
Received 169 Likes on 149 Posts
Originally Posted by orich
Here's an old tip that I've done & used for 55 yrs.
Tee'd off my mom when got them greasy, but got to keep them for the next pull engine down.
I use numbered old style spring closed clothes pins on one end of the push rods.

Works better then tape.

Orich
They make great Chip Clips too.
 


Quick Reply: My 1970 F100 Flareside (Pic Heavy)



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:54 PM.