20's on a '37? Better be reaaaaaal careful there man. id go with some nice whitewalls and wire rims or somethin, goin with 20's can be a huge turnoff if they dont look perfect on that classic. Do you have any links to wheels that you're looking at right now? I bet if you got the right ones, they'd look sweet.
Fomoco, I think he meant he was looking for the 20" wheels that came on the bigger trucks, like the 1.5 tons. I'd check Hemmings or try their website at www.hemmings.com for parts. You may also want to check out eBay, you never know what you'll find there. Good luck with your projects.
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Your right 46fordtruck. The original 20" wheels that are on them are quite seedy, I have been on Ebay for some time with no luck. I found a local tire shop that can get 7.00x20 to 9.00x20 tires from different manufactures, and they think also the wheels. But I'd rather get away from the locking ring type and run tubeless radials instead. I have found that www.denniscarpenter.com has alot of parts for the cab and drivetrain for this and the 1/2 tons. But I have yet to find a complete weld in floor pan to replace the original wooden floor. Another thought I had, cut out the center of the 20"s and weld them inside the new 19.5"s that are on the new F450's and F550's......hmmmm.
In 1937 the original equipment wheels were a Budd product that were 20" x 5", Ford part number BB-1015-D, Budd part number 35820. They have 5 lugs on an 8" bolt circle. They had what is called a Firestone "RH" lock ring mounting system. Keep in mind, though, that over the span of 70+ years wheels could have been damaged and replaced with whatever the old farmer could find that would fit. I'll post a cross section diagram of the "RH" so you can see if that's what you have. If these are still on the truck, they are still serviceable today by genuine TRUCK tire shops (stay away from the discount outfits) as long as there is no serious rust or other road damage. You need to have professionals work on them, but they are safe to use once the new tires are professionally mounted.
You might have wheels that were replacements for damaged originals. The ones you want to be alert for are termed Firestone "RH-5°". Don't be confused by the fact that the name is similar to the others. These are the killers that have come to be termed "widow makers". No shop with work on them anymore and you are right to get rid of them. Here's a cross section diagram of them.
If you find that you have wheels that don't look like either of these, that's ok. There were dozens of different Firestone and Goodyear "lock ring" designs used over the years. Any lock ring wheel is safe to use today as long as you and the tire shop make sure you keep the rim and ring sets matched.
Now to your question. If the tires have gone flat and the rims have been down in the mud for years and rusted badly, you're right to find replacements. Sometimes, though, it's amazing what a sandblasting can tell you about wheel integrity. Don't give up on the originals too fast. Finding replacements is getting difficult and expensive. There are no companies that I know of that carry good used rims with this bolt pattern ready to buy. You can still find them if you're willing to do junk yard searches. There are also companies that sell reconditioned wheels by putting old centers in new 20" lock ring outer rims. Two that are well known are Stockton Wheel in CA and American Wheel Specialist in Pasco, WA. American Wheel Specialist sells through the big Les Schwab chain of dealerships on the west coast, but can work directly with you if you live east of the Schwab service area. These companies can also put old centers in new tubeless rims, whether 19.5" or 22.5". Be alert though to rear hub clearance. If I'm right, you have 14" rear drums. Tubeless 19.5s will be much smaller inside than your 20s because they are what's called a "drop center" rim. Technically, 19.5s are replacements for 17" rims, while 22.5s are replacements for 20" rims. But you can use 19.5s if they'll clear your drums. Hopefully that gives you options, and will help keep you safe. Stu
Pete- Alcoa did make them in tubeless sizes, 5 lug x 8" circle. I've seen a couple but never a whole set. I forget whether the ones I saw were 19.5s or 22.5s. They even made them with different finishes to the aluminum. Some with a bright finish, some with more of a mat finish. Be slick to have, wouldn't it? Stu
If they were 20" they'd be multi-part, probably lock ring, and tube type. I'd be surprised if they made them in aluminum. I've not seen any like that listed in any of the books. If that's what you have I'd for certain like to see pictures and learn more about them. Stu
Hello, I came across this site in starting to do some research in selling my 48 snogo. It was originally owned by an airport around Benton Harbor and we bought it for our ranch near Petoskey. Primarily I would like to find out it's value. It is VERY sound and everything works. And it will throw snow a lot further then 30 feet. It is not been restored and needs love but outside of a a leaky master cylinder will go right down the road. The rear motor is the oridinal staight 6 Continental and the front has a professionally rebuilt 95hp merc flathead v8 with less the 10 hrs on it. I have had some offers on the motors and various body parts, but would like to see it go to someone who woud restore it. Any thoughts?
Let me first welcome you. Glad to have you. There are a few of us '48-'52 types that check in here on the '47 and under page, but not a lot of us. You might get more input over on the '48 to '60 page of this site. There are also only a few of us Marmon-Herrington types. As you know, any MH is a rare beast. But like a discussion we had last week over on the other forum, rarity doesn't carry with it automatic high dollar value. The fact is you don't have a lot of guys looking for the big models with MH conversions, especially something as specialized as a Snogo. You might go over to the '48-'60 forum and look back a few pages for a thread on a '52 COE Marmon-Herrington.
All that said, I'd think you'd be looking at $5000 plus or minus. It helps that yours is complete and runs. There's one like yours that been for sale for a while on Craig's List with a $5000 asking price. Like the ad implies, it's easy to put money into them, but getting it back isn't so easy. Stu
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