Just throwing this out there.. .

Anyone have any experience or luck with larger 10 bolt axles?
After much talk and thinking about it, and reading, I PLAN to
build my next truck from chunks of different truck.
This is going to be the dt360 or dt466, MD manual tranny, giant transfer case, and big axles, and big 10 lug floater wheels, 42" or so.

I think I have mostly everything semi figured, except for the axles.
The d60 or 80 or whatever comes on the f350's is out of it's league at this point. Adding wheel adatpters on it is going to mean even more repairs, alignments, and steering box issues.

Because this will be a daily driver truck, those monster truck rockwells will not work. They are good for offroad, but thats about it.

I'm wondering if anyone has experience with cutting down axles like something from a F650, international CXT, etc to a narrow pickup wheelbase.
There are a TON of front drive axles, some even cheap but most also have air brakes on them.
So basically I'm looking for a front drive axle that is 10 times tougher than stock, same width or can be cut down, and hydraulic brakes.

Just thought I'd see if any of ya guys have any knowledge to share.

 

pretty sure no one here has anything they swapped those axles into. but pretty sure all the newer F450's are 10 lug...

 

the 450 uses a smaller lug pattern than the large trucks Larry.
i would put a set of Eaton axles under it like the F-650 super cruiser uses, and slap a set of super single tires and rims on it.

 

I think the 450's use 19.5" wheels.

 

What is all this going in to and what are you planning on using it for? If the frame can't handle what those huge axles are rated for it seems pointless to me. You can get 8 lug or the F450 10 lug wheels in whatever size you want to run.

 

The major point is that the dana front axle falls apart on rough roads, unless you drive like an old man like I do.
My plan was to basically build a truck to suit my needs and wants; commercial floater wheels, stronger axles, old school engine, STD trans.

 

Heres an interesting bit of knowledge,

"Carraro axles"

I read on another forum they were used on e450 buses with a super low deck, so it was exclusively front wheel drive. And had drum or disc brakes.
The fact it was used 100% of the time means it must be tough, and the fact is was used under an e450 means they aren't made only in super wide format.
Looks like a brand new take-off for 3000$

http://www.heavytruckparts.net/detai...rchnum=7028750

 

Is that what they use for f650?
There is a lot of conflicting information on the ol' google.
Some of those big axles weigh up to 2000 lbs lol.
I was originally thinking super singles, but they're just too big to work I think.
Floaters are perfect, but they are 42" tall. I would be happier at 37" or so, but I'm not willing to use a light truck tire.

 

This is stupid and will NEVER materialize.....


Nothing makes sense.

Any idea what a dt466 weighs or its operating rpm range? Not to mention cost?

Any idea what an Eaton two speed rear cost and how fornicatingly large they are? Not to mention cost? Plus they are 6 lug bud wheels....NOT 10 lug.

Any idea how stupid this is? If not I will happily tell you.


Stupid

 

Admittedly being drunk i shall retract my above statements extremely briefly....


Wide d60 and a d135 would be my first choice after 2.5 or 5t rocks if i were dead effin set on bigger than 1-1.25t axles. Np200 would get my vote for tcase and 6bt would be at the top of the list for engines. Trans are questionable. Nv4500 maybe?

Regardless youre talking 12-15k in drivetrain used and 20k new....for what?


I have cdls....i have owned and driven trucks containing all of the above components mentioned as well as maintained every aspect of them. Its not stuff your average guy will ever use to show off in the high school parking lot.

 

Agreed



Not really giving a crap, but go ahead and tell him

 

have you ever seen the heavy 4X4 off road rigs the power companies or oil field outfits use? basically the same thing as parkland wants to build.

 

He never said he wants to build a heavy hauler. He said dd which makes me immediately think of some kid with a pipe dream.

Regardless this thread will never materialize

 

this "daily driver" he is talking about is a service truck.
he has been researching and planning it for around 6 months now in another forum.

 

A dt466 might be a little much, require firewall mods.
A dt360 isn't that bad.
Cost=cheap.
RPM range = not a problem at all.
I don't want a 2 sp rear, just a larger axle, with 10 lug pattern for bolting on 22.5" rims for float tires. Relatively cheap.

If you find it's a stupid idea, your driving experience must be entirely different than mine. I drive offroad lots and on crappy roads, so I want something that will take a beating over what the truck was designed to from the factory.

You are not the first person to say it's a bad idea. "Just put 37" mud tires on and a lift kit, or use wheel spacers for the floater wheels" they said, well that doesn't help anything, and will just put more stress on the axles and steering.