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Old 02-08-2013, 09:46 AM
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2014 Ford vs Ram Cargo Vans

The Chicago auto show is where Ford and Fiatsler are introducing the next generation full-size vans Many of us have heard of the Ford Transit (not the small Transit Connect that is already here) Econoline replacement, but this is the first time Ive seen a replacement for the Sprinter. GM may be selling a lot more G-series vans next year.

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http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...n/#more-476806

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http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...0/#more-476767
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I agree, GM will probably see an increase in sales on their current van if they keep it around. These two offerings have that Eurotrash look and no V8 option. The Fiatsler front end is horrid looking. I doubt many will plunk down the cash for the EB. I still do not think the EB will take the neglect and abuse a the V8 engines took for a large amount of miles.
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Wow, is all I can say. They are going to push these crappy European trucks on us, when America's best vehicles have been truck for years now IMO. The Ram van is a joke with front wheel drive, and the Ford is a little better, but no V8 is B.S.
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Yeah fwd on the Fiatsler will be a joke. Load 5k lbs in the back of that thing get on any type of incline and you spin the tires from the start even with dry pavement. Cheap to produce is all they care about.

.GOV is really screwing us here in the states and the car companies just bend over and take it. Of course part of that is because they depend on the .GOV teet to give them money.
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Transits looks way better..........its all about the MPGs now a days.....
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I think the E-series will be available with a small diesel. If Ford is smart and makes the E-series as customizable as the Euro version, you could see many configurations of this truck such as a van, a pick-up, a utility vehicle, etc.
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The E-series has been discontinued. The T-series will obviously be the so called replacement. Socialism and vehicles just like in Europe here in the states, wonderful.
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The E-series has been discontinued. The T-series will obviously be the so called replacement. Socialism and vehicles just like in Europe here in the states, wonderful.
That's quite a reach, comparing a van to a form of government.

Dodge, Freightliner and Mercedes have a gazillion of these Euro vans. They have a nice high top and they seem to be a good hardworking vehicle.

The Econoline is a great van but it's a dinosaur. It's no different than Ford having never evolved past the 1996 model F-series trucks.
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The reason that van is coming here is because of CAFE mandates by the government. Anyway I was for the most part commenting on state of Europe and my lack of desire to have it in the states.

Ford can be improving existing models. Instead they let several models untouched for over a decade, complained why they are not desirable to the customer and then give them the axe. Some are not replaced some are marginally replaced with a .GOV approved version.

At least GM and Nissan still offer a van similar to the discontinued E-Series. (For now anyway)
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The reason that van is coming here is because of CAFE mandates by the government
Of course it is but CAFE standards are nothing new, now are they.

MPG's are the name of the game right now. I don't blame Ford for trying a new vehicle considering the success of the aforementioned Euro vans.
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CAFE is nothing new, nearly doubling the mpg requirement is. Just because something works one place does not mean it will work in another place. Of course it is nice to know .GOV is there to give a handout if you and your product fail.
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