Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > General > Ford vs The Competition
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?


Ford vs The Competition Technical discussion and comparison ONLY. Trolls will not be tolerated.

Reply
 
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 02-08-2013, 10:46 AM
jimandmandy jimandmandy is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Running Springs CA
Posts: 5,228
jimandmandy has a great reputation on FTE.jimandmandy has a great reputation on FTE.jimandmandy has a great reputation on FTE.jimandmandy has a great reputation on FTE.jimandmandy has a great reputation on FTE.
2014 Ford vs Ram Cargo Vans

The Chicago auto show is where Ford and Fiatsler are introducing the next generation full-size vans Many of us have heard of the Ford Transit (not the small Transit Connect that is already here) Econoline replacement, but this is the first time Ive seen a replacement for the Sprinter. GM may be selling a lot more G-series vans next year.

Ram ProMaster:

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...n/#more-476806

Ford T-series:

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...0/#more-476767
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-23-2013, 08:54 PM
dkf's Avatar
dkf dkf is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Pa
Posts: 9,303
dkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to behold
I agree, GM will probably see an increase in sales on their current van if they keep it around. These two offerings have that Eurotrash look and no V8 option. The Fiatsler front end is horrid looking. I doubt many will plunk down the cash for the EB. I still do not think the EB will take the neglect and abuse a the V8 engines took for a large amount of miles.
__________________
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." (Thomas Jefferson)
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-26-2013, 07:12 PM
92f150I6's Avatar
92f150I6 92f150I6 is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: PA
Posts: 1,611
92f150I6 is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Wow, is all I can say. They are going to push these crappy European trucks on us, when America's best vehicles have been truck for years now IMO. The Ram van is a joke with front wheel drive, and the Ford is a little better, but no V8 is B.S.
__________________
2003 F250 SD 4X4 5.4L 4:10 Arizona Beige
1987 Mustang GT (sold)
09 Challenger RT
07 BMW 328Xi E92
A bunch of motorcycles and a Quad.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-01-2013, 10:57 AM
dkf's Avatar
dkf dkf is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Pa
Posts: 9,303
dkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to behold
Yeah fwd on the Fiatsler will be a joke. Load 5k lbs in the back of that thing get on any type of incline and you spin the tires from the start even with dry pavement. Cheap to produce is all they care about.

.GOV is really screwing us here in the states and the car companies just bend over and take it. Of course part of that is because they depend on the .GOV teet to give them money.
__________________
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." (Thomas Jefferson)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-25-2013, 09:18 PM
5.4T's Avatar
5.4T 5.4T is offline
Elder User
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 725
5.4T has a very good reputation on FTE.5.4T has a very good reputation on FTE.5.4T has a very good reputation on FTE.
Transits looks way better..........its all about the MPGs now a days.....
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-12-2013, 07:23 AM
tseekins's Avatar
tseekins tseekins is online now
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Hampton, Virginia
Posts: 20,083
tseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputation
I think the E-series will be available with a small diesel. If Ford is smart and makes the E-series as customizable as the Euro version, you could see many configurations of this truck such as a van, a pick-up, a utility vehicle, etc.
__________________
Tim
SCPO United States Coast Guard Retired
2011 F-150 XLT 4x4 Ecoboost
2010 Ford Focus
2004 Expedition XLT 4x2

FTE Guidelines
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-12-2013, 10:09 AM
dkf's Avatar
dkf dkf is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Pa
Posts: 9,303
dkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to behold
The E-series has been discontinued. The T-series will obviously be the so called replacement. Socialism and vehicles just like in Europe here in the states, wonderful.
__________________
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." (Thomas Jefferson)
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-12-2013, 10:51 AM
tseekins's Avatar
tseekins tseekins is online now
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Hampton, Virginia
Posts: 20,083
tseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputation
Quote:
Originally Posted by dkf View Post
The E-series has been discontinued. The T-series will obviously be the so called replacement. Socialism and vehicles just like in Europe here in the states, wonderful.
That's quite a reach, comparing a van to a form of government.

Dodge, Freightliner and Mercedes have a gazillion of these Euro vans. They have a nice high top and they seem to be a good hardworking vehicle.

The Econoline is a great van but it's a dinosaur. It's no different than Ford having never evolved past the 1996 model F-series trucks.
__________________
Tim
SCPO United States Coast Guard Retired
2011 F-150 XLT 4x4 Ecoboost
2010 Ford Focus
2004 Expedition XLT 4x2

FTE Guidelines
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-12-2013, 02:15 PM
dkf's Avatar
dkf dkf is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Pa
Posts: 9,303
dkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to behold
The reason that van is coming here is because of CAFE mandates by the government. Anyway I was for the most part commenting on state of Europe and my lack of desire to have it in the states.

Ford can be improving existing models. Instead they let several models untouched for over a decade, complained why they are not desirable to the customer and then give them the axe. Some are not replaced some are marginally replaced with a .GOV approved version.

At least GM and Nissan still offer a van similar to the discontinued E-Series. (For now anyway)
__________________
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." (Thomas Jefferson)
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-12-2013, 02:57 PM
tseekins's Avatar
tseekins tseekins is online now
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Hampton, Virginia
Posts: 20,083
tseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputationtseekins has a superb reputation
Quote:
Originally Posted by dkf View Post
The reason that van is coming here is because of CAFE mandates by the government
Of course it is but CAFE standards are nothing new, now are they.

MPG's are the name of the game right now. I don't blame Ford for trying a new vehicle considering the success of the aforementioned Euro vans.
__________________
Tim
SCPO United States Coast Guard Retired
2011 F-150 XLT 4x4 Ecoboost
2010 Ford Focus
2004 Expedition XLT 4x2

FTE Guidelines
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-12-2013, 03:15 PM
dkf's Avatar
dkf dkf is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Pa
Posts: 9,303
dkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to beholddkf is a splendid one to behold
CAFE is nothing new, nearly doubling the mpg requirement is. Just because something works one place does not mean it will work in another place. Of course it is nice to know .GOV is there to give a handout if you and your product fail.
__________________
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." (Thomas Jefferson)
Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2013, 03:15 PM
 
 
 
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Super Duty to Follow F150 into Aluminum Future spongecop Super Duty & Heavy Duty 1 06-24-2014 11:05 AM
Tundra to share 5.0 Cummins with Titan spongecop General Diesel Discussion 3 02-17-2014 10:26 PM
what so ugly van! Super Econoline Ranchero & 1961 - 1967 Econoline 4 04-30-2013 11:34 AM
Transit Connect competition jimandmandy Ford vs The Competition 0 02-14-2013 11:11 AM
Don't like the Transit?.......it could be worse. powerstroke72 1968-2013 Full Size Vans 24 02-14-2013 12:51 AM


Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > General > Ford vs The Competition

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump


Participate In The Forums

Create new posts and participate in discussions. It's free!

Sign Up »





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:44 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 AC1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertising - Terms of Use - Privacy Statement - Jobs
This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. Ford® is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.

vbulletin Admin Backup