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Old 02-25-2013, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by plowpusher
some 360 use 390 4v pistons on 390 rods these have a9+:1 compression ratiolook under the piston tops it'll say 4v I have a 76 stock 360 with these pistons in it.
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360 stroke = 3.50, 390 rod = 6.49, 390 car piston = 1.778 compression height.

1.75 + 6.49 + 1.778 = 10.018

Deck is 10.17, so your piston is .152 down the hole.

Even if you figure the 390 4v flat top piston without the small volume for the valve reliefs, you get a 7.569:1 compression ratio. (.040 gasket, 72 cc combustion chamber)

This is why they use the 390 piston, either flavor, on the 352/360 rod, which puts it up the hole a bit. With the same info as above and a 6.540 rod, you get a piston "only" .102 down the hole and a compression ratio of 8.248:1, approximatley the advertised CR for a 360.
 
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Is 10.6:1 streetable on pump gas or is that too iffy? I really don't want to burn through the pistons
 
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So im wanting to find a 360 FE motor and build it into a street eating 410 for my 73. I'm not going to rip out my 390 that is currently sitting in the engine bay because I need a driver. I know I will need a 428 crank for the build and I have found that Autozone sells refurbs (for alot less than any stroker crank). I was pondering just porting and blending and milling (ALOT OF MILLING) and rebuilding the heads myself. Pairing it with a biggish cam, a dual plane aluminum intake, and headers. Personally I would happy pumping out 400 horsepower. I would like to be able to run on 87, but 91 is acceptable. Can I expect 400 from this combo or am I shooting wayyyy to high?
// I got a friend that a Ford FE nut literately, He owns his own 7 bay garage and races Fords, I have a 390 FE in a inboard and was asking him about port matching, smoothing the runners, and opening up the cylinder heads and he came back with he tried that on some GT heads and he actually lost horse power and torque when doing a head job, He thinks the FE mills need back pressure to keep the HP/Torque up on them ??/
 

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Originally Posted by stevejohnson48
// I got a friend that a Ford FE nut literately, He owns his own 7 bay garage and races Fords, I have a 390 FE in a inboard and was asking him about port matching, smoothing the runners, and opening up the cylinder heads and he came back with he tried that on some GT heads and he actually lost horse power and torque when doing a head job, He thinks the FE mills need back pressure to keep the HP/Torque up on them ??/
I may not know a lot about FE's but I do know how an internal combustion engine works. Maybe your cam was too small to take advantage of the freer flowing heads or the exhaust manifolds were too restrictive to begin with. But no engine "needs" back pressure to operate correctly (from my experiences). I cannot see how making a motor less efficient (backpressure) will make it more efficient (power). It's always going to be harder to suck a shake through a straw than a malt.
 
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I am going to try to revive this thread. How much compression can you run safely on pump gas with iron heads?
 
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I am going to try to revive this thread. How much compression can you run safely on pump gas with iron heads?
I'm going out on a limb here but every body I've talk to says 9-6 to 1 is max on 98 oct that was 5 or 6 years ago and I don't think the gas quietly has gotten any better so you might want to bump it down a couple more on the high side say 9-4 to 1 that's still using high octane??/
 
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Old 03-24-2013, 11:22 PM
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We have like 93 max round these parts. But then again we are pretty close to sea level. Like 12-- if I remember right
 
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Course we do have a couple stations with E85
 
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