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Old 01-31-2013, 11:29 AM
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5.0 V-8 doesn't offer the Tow Max package

I wish that Ford would offer the tow max package on the 5.0 V-8. It is only available on the 3.5 ecoboost and the 6.2 V-8. The tow max package gives you a larger radiator, larger trans cooler, two arm extending tow mirrors, and a stronger hitch with extra bracing on the rear bumper. You need to order the 3.73 rear end to get the tow max package. In the screw 4X4 that I was looking at the 5.0 is rated to pull 1,900 lbs. less than the ecoboost and 1,800 lbs. less than the 6.2 V-8.
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That's because both the EB and the 6.2 can tow more weight than the 5.0. They do have a tow package with the 5.0 with a select-shift xmsn, xmsn cooler, etc. It's a smaller engine, but it's a peppy one unloaded. I towed a trailered car with mine last week, felt a little better than it did with my 5.4, but I think that was the throttle response.
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if you max out a 5.0's pulling ability i would think you are way over the frames pulling capacity's by a long shot. the 3.5 and 6.2 cant pull all that much more and if you need to pull that much you should be looking in to a 250 or bigger. but thats just my opinion!
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if you max out a 5.0's pulling ability i would think you are way over the frames pulling capacity's by a long shot. the 3.5 and 6.2 cant pull all that much more and if you need to pull that much you should be looking in to a 250 or bigger. but thats just my opinion!
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This about sums it up. I've always advocated that if you can't do it with the 5.0L then you probably shouldn't be doing it in a 1/2 ton anyway. All's I know is that the 5.0L in my FX4 makes steller power all the way around, couldn't be happier with it.

None of that's to say the Ecoboost or the 6.2L don't have their place, but seriously even the 5.0L is overkill for a 1/2 ton...Remember the 1990s? Or the 1980s? When the biggest V8 offered in pickups (usually larger than 7.0L) make 220ish hp and maybe 380lb/ft of torque.
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In a screw 4X4 the ecoboost with the tow max package is rated to pull 11,200 lbs. the 5.0 is rated to pull 9,400 lbs.The same truck with the 6.2 V-8 is rated to pull 11,100 lbs. Ford really pushes the ecoboost with the ecoboost being a $1,095 option and the 6.2 V-8 is a $2,200 option, I wonder if some of this has to do with corporate mpg average. I would think that it would be cheaper to build the 6.2 V-8 than a V-6 with twin turbos.
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. I would think that it would be cheaper to build the 6.2 V-8 than a V-6 with twin turbos.
or even cheaper with all the 5.0 and all the aftermarket for it!
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In a screw 4X4 the ecoboost with the tow max package is rated to pull 11,200 lbs. the 5.0 is rated to pull 9,400 lbs.The same truck with the 6.2 V-8 is rated to pull 11,100 lbs. Ford really pushes the ecoboost with the ecoboost being a $1,095 option and the 6.2 V-8 is a $2,200 option, I wonder if some of this has to do with corporate mpg average. I would think that it would be cheaper to build the 6.2 V-8 than a V-6 with twin turbos.
I'd bet that volume drives the price down on the EB enough to where it's cheaper to build than the 6.2.
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I'd bet that volume drives the price down on the EB enough to where it's cheaper to build than the 6.2.
I don't think so, the 6.2L is a high-volume engine with it being the standard choice for the F250-350 Super Duty trucks. Tens of thousands of these things are being made each month.
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I have scab 163'' wb, with hvy payload with the 3.73, I'm rated at 9600lb. which I believe is the max for the 5.0. which is fine for me. I do love my 5.0!!
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Going back to the main topic, I think the reason they won't offer the 5.0L has as much to do with marketing and sales numbers as it does anything else. The 5.0L will handily maul the 5.4L in just about every situation towing or otherwise, yet the 5.4L could be had with the max tow package.

I wouldn't have a problem with 11,000 lbs behind a 5.0L truck as long as the trailer was setup right. I had 15K behind my Excursion and I didn't blow it up!
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I have scab 163'' wb, with hvy payload with the 3.73, I'm rated at 9600lb. which I believe is the max for the 5.0. which is fine for me. I do love my 5.0!!
I'm currently looking at purchasing a used 2012 5.0L supercrew that has the heavy duty payload package and trailer tow package. The only difference between a 5.0L truck that has both of these packages and an Ecoboost and 6.2L with the 'max trailer tow package' from looking at the ford brochure is maybe the upgraded rear bumper and the large tow mirrors. I'm glad to hear your raving reviews on the 5.0L on this thread and others I've looked through the past day. I curently have a 3/4 ton 2001 Dodge Ram 5.9 cummins quad cab that, I'm probably going to keep when I do need to haul extra heavy or when I need to hook up to the gooseneck horse trailer. Most our trips our within a couple hours from home. Just need some extra room for the kids over the quad cab when where not hauling heavy. Have looked through alot of the pages in the 6.2L super duty forum and there are alot of good reviews there, but I'd like something that can get near 20 mpg on the highway when I want to go for a trip without From what I've read it sounds the 5.0L will pull my 7000# camper or our 3 horse slant bumper pull horse trailer just fine. Now, I'm coming from a 3/4 ton truck, so the so the key to pulling near max GCWR is going to be making sure the trailer brakes are doing there job or else your going to get pushed around. Honestly, the deal breaker for me is the heavy duty payload package. For me, It provides that much more capability in a truck that usually was reserved for 3/4 ton territory. My truck before my 2001 dodge, well, it was a 1991 ford 1/2 ton with the 302 ci engine. Sounds like technology has really this little engine.
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Now, I'm coming from a 3/4 ton truck, so the so the key to pulling near max GCWR is going to be making sure the trailer brakes are doing there job or else your going to get pushed around.
That's not exclusive to 1/2 ton trucks, any truck on the road will get pushed around with a heavy trailer without brakes!
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That's not exclusive to 1/2 ton trucks, any truck on the road will get pushed around with a heavy trailer without brakes!
Yeah, your right on that, trailer brakes should always be used with heavy trailers! At times pulling our big 30 foot steel 4 horse gooseneck with, those darn low under the bumper 7 pin plugs that seem to get a little loose over time on our dirt roads, and even with the heavy braking of the diesel, you'll feel the push. Controllable on dry roads, can get a little pucker factor going on slick roads. Sorry if I went off topic.
Anybody towing max rated loads with their 5.0L? I read the article over at pickuptrucks..com that loaded a 5.0L up to near GCWR. Reviewers were impressed with overall performance.
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it was a 1991 ford 1/2 ton with the 302 ci engine. Sounds like technology has really this little engine.
The only similarities are it's made out metal, and still burns gas. The 5.0 now is really a nice engine, I like it, the old days they were decent too, for all we had back then.
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That's not exclusive to 1/2 ton trucks, any truck on the road will get pushed around with a heavy trailer without brakes!
Hey Tom! Nice to see you in our neck of the woods!

As for the topic...I believe the reason max tow is not offered fro the 5.0 mainly due to the 3.5L and the 6.2L both have more torque that the 5.0L.

The difference between the tow packages are: The regular tow package has everything the max tow package has except for a heavy duty bumper/receiver and the tow mirrors. The radiator in the max tow is also a 51 row compared to a 41 row on the regular tow package. The max tow also has the 3.73 gearing and adds 200 lbs to the rear axle rating as well as 500 lbs. to the GVWR.
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