just curious about what adapter is required to use the original trans on a 48-52 truck 3 and or 4 speed when using a 289 or 302.
I wouldnt think many would use the original trans when doing this engine swap but im looking at (pictures) of what appears to be an original? 4 speed trans behind a newer engine?

thanks for any input or knowledge on this.

 

Adapter bellhousings used to be common for that swap. But I haven't seen one available new anywhere for a long time. Swap meets or the usual internet sites would be the best option for keeping your eye out for one.

PS; Thanks for the heads up on the PM.

 

I've looked several times and Merc is right, no one has an adapter. Strange, because they are still available for a nailhead Buick, or 394 Olds. If you use the bigger trannies (4-sp spur) that doesn't have the "half-bell" integral, I expect it's easy to adapt the trans to a modern BH, but then you have to figure out a clutch linkage or hydraulics.

 

Thanks guys, I'll hopefully find out soon on what the trans is. I assume its the 4 speed spur or possibly a t-98 synchro 4??


Speaking of the Nailhead I know of a certain truck 48-50 that has one in it but not sure what tran's I'll have to look next time I can.
I just can't imagine anyone wanting more HP in front of a crashbox 4 speed though

 

oops double post, Wayne did that turn out to be anything worthwhile?

 

He has an automatic trans flathead starter. I have no use for it, and can certainly use the $100 somewhere else besides a fordomatic starter on the shelf I'll never use. But I certainly appreciate you thinking of me when deals pop up.

 

Early 289s had bells with the old "square" bell to trans pattern. Those may have also been 5 bolt bells. Later ('65 1/2) 289s and all 302s use a 6 bolt bell. Not sure any 6 bolt bell has the square pattern.

Input length is another question also.

I found a 6 bolt SBF to old T10/Toploader bell here. It's a Quicktime bell, and "only" $553.....

Modern Driveline T5 transmission parts & conversion packages

I find SBF to Jeep T98 adapters, but I don't know if that works for a Ford T98.

 

oh, just a starter!
I thought it was the entire engine... lol.

85e150
thanks for the info. ill post back if i can find out more info.

 

I ran a Buick naihead for many years through an original F-1 transmission. Too much power for the standard 3 speed but good success running it through a HD 3 speed.

 

I saw an article in Hot Rod a couple years ago on adapters and it was, I think,Trans-go that has a 3 piece adapter/bell housing that you can pretty much mate any engine to any transmission with the right mix of parts.
Maybe it would just be easier to get the tranny/bell housing from a 70s pickup that had a 302.

 

I went to your link but it was just the general site?

does this look like it is for the flathead toploader trans??
McLeod 8624 McLeod Standard SFI Bellhousings

I now have the new rebuilt 289 and t-98 synchro trans in my possession. I was told the 289 is a 64 or 65. I will crawl under and see how many bolts are in the bellhousing. Also need to check casting numbers to see what year the engine is etc.

I think I'm going to pull the engine trans combo before moving the truck down the line, seems like a big truck for a 289?

Anyway in another thread I posted a picture of a 51 COE f-6 that is where the 289 and flathead 4 speed synchro trans is all hooked up and ready to go.
The bellhousing adapter is aluminum and supposedly came from Trans Dapt (acording to the po) but must have been at least 7 to 8 or more years ago as that's how long the truck has been sitting out after the project was abandoned.

Thanks for any additional info, I'll post up pictures and any other info I find.

 

edit - thinking - let me revise what I was about to say...

While I think. gonna ask the question - have you looked through all the vendors I mention in my T-5 article, MEC, Wilcap, etc?

(scroll to the bottom)
http://www.brainsbivouac.com/cars/19...ion%20swap.htm

 

Thanks for the article, I looked at that briefly way back when you put it together, lots of good info there.
I think the 289 is an early (64 to 65?) 5 bolt bellhousing pattern.

got dark to fast, still need to find out engine details.

supposedly the engine was rebuilt and never run. has an RV cam in it. who knows what else, oil is brand new and clean. I guess I'm mostly just trying to decide if I'm going to yank the engine and trans for resale or possible alternate use?
but if it's a less desirable (less options for transmissions etc) then maybe just leave it alone?

 

Some of the ford 6 bolt aluminum 289 housings had dual transmission patterns drilled and threaded . The cast iron ones from the 70s era truck are east to drill and thread , I did one . They have flat areas in side with room to do it. Some of the three and four speed top loader transmissions have the dual pattern . The three speed from my 73 f-100 had the 360 and the dual pattern trany in it and it bolted up to the 302.

 

1962/64 Falcon/Fairlane/Comet/Meteor 221/260, 1965 Mustang 260/289 before 8/23/1964: 5 bolt bell housing.

And these early engines use a different timing cover and waterpump. From 8/23/1964, both are different.