Cold weather and diesel ?'s
#16
Ok guys today I started my 7.3 and it really smoked a lot for about 4-5 minutes. Normally I get the white smoke for maybe a minute max. Now today was a lot colder than normal at -24F is this normal? And where the heck is the block heater. I've looked under the bumper and must be blind because I can't see it.
#17
Ok guys today I started my 7.3 and it really smoked a lot for about 4-5 minutes. Normally I get the white smoke for maybe a minute max. Now today was a lot colder than normal at -24F is this normal? And where the heck is the block heater. I've looked under the bumper and must be blind because I can't see it.
#18
#20
Personally I have 4 or 5 folks I know and they run amsoil in everything they can. My diesel mechanic also is a big believer and he sees the insides of diesel motors all day long. Just my 2 cents.
#21
With Mikes help I was finally able to find the block heater plug. If anyone else is looking for it I suggest on your back looking up between the fog light and the tow hook. you won't be able to pull it out from there but it will show what wire to pull on and having the hands of a 12 year old girl wouldn't hurt either. Mine was caught between a couple of other hoses and was hard to get out.
#22
Opinions are just that subjective to ones own info. I have worked on and run my own trucks for 35 plus years. My 85 Ford ran clean for 20 years with gas as a winter mix. When I sold it the new owner took it to a shop for a rebuild and was told the motor looked and measured near new. The only problem was the lack of a turbo for speed. with only 100,000 miles on the block I would hope to see nothing more. Running only gas is and always been bad for the diesel trucks.
For decades truckers have added regular gas to their tanks. Before you tell me you know of no one that has means little. It is done and in my longest owned diesel it worked very well. Others used Kerosene but I do not like storing it just for the winter. I have never gelled or had any problems starting my rigs in the winter using this method. Only on my little VW motor have I had a problem with the cold.
If you insist on telling others they should not post opinions here or anywhere back it up with a proven fact that makes the point. Auto manufactures recommend changing oil 3000 miles when oil testing shows with our diesels we can go 5000 to as much as 10000 miles. Several have sent the oil out for testing and found the oil was still quite usable.
Anti gel additives are done all winter by the fuel companies. I have never had to add extra anti gel in California beyond what the stations already have. The OP did not state he had any gelling or fuel problems to indicate so. Just he had a hard start. He added he prefers Amsoil. As a counter I suggested DieselKleen and regular gas at 1 gallon to 40 diesel. Show me where anyone has found this to damage or destroy a motor. The DieselKleen gives the needed lubrication we lost with low sulfur fuel, the regular gas is just an old truckers trick that has worked well for me over 20 years. It does little I am sure as these trucks will burn anything.
Primarily the OP needs to check out his electrical system for strong batteries with solid ground properties, working charging system, proper glow plugs and solid working glow plug system. If after all of these checks are good then I would look at fuel supplements. Whether he chooses gas, amsoil, diesel Kleen or any other product the tests have been done to show which are scientifically better. Still if the owner is not comfortable with a product he or she should not use it. With the exception of the extreme northern truck owners the factory equipment works well with nothing added just maintained. Ford does not recommend anything we have talked about other than maintaining the electrical systems. Anything else used would void the warranty. Warranties on an 04 Ex is null and void most likely anyways.
Whew now that that is off my chest and the temps are coming back up how is the OP doing with his truck and what did he find that works for him?
For decades truckers have added regular gas to their tanks. Before you tell me you know of no one that has means little. It is done and in my longest owned diesel it worked very well. Others used Kerosene but I do not like storing it just for the winter. I have never gelled or had any problems starting my rigs in the winter using this method. Only on my little VW motor have I had a problem with the cold.
If you insist on telling others they should not post opinions here or anywhere back it up with a proven fact that makes the point. Auto manufactures recommend changing oil 3000 miles when oil testing shows with our diesels we can go 5000 to as much as 10000 miles. Several have sent the oil out for testing and found the oil was still quite usable.
Anti gel additives are done all winter by the fuel companies. I have never had to add extra anti gel in California beyond what the stations already have. The OP did not state he had any gelling or fuel problems to indicate so. Just he had a hard start. He added he prefers Amsoil. As a counter I suggested DieselKleen and regular gas at 1 gallon to 40 diesel. Show me where anyone has found this to damage or destroy a motor. The DieselKleen gives the needed lubrication we lost with low sulfur fuel, the regular gas is just an old truckers trick that has worked well for me over 20 years. It does little I am sure as these trucks will burn anything.
Primarily the OP needs to check out his electrical system for strong batteries with solid ground properties, working charging system, proper glow plugs and solid working glow plug system. If after all of these checks are good then I would look at fuel supplements. Whether he chooses gas, amsoil, diesel Kleen or any other product the tests have been done to show which are scientifically better. Still if the owner is not comfortable with a product he or she should not use it. With the exception of the extreme northern truck owners the factory equipment works well with nothing added just maintained. Ford does not recommend anything we have talked about other than maintaining the electrical systems. Anything else used would void the warranty. Warranties on an 04 Ex is null and void most likely anyways.
Whew now that that is off my chest and the temps are coming back up how is the OP doing with his truck and what did he find that works for him?
#23
It is what it is. I'm not bashing it, not like I bash OEM 4x4 Excursion springs. I'm just saying I won't run Amsoil and don't like their products.
There are tons of threads where people have asked for help because they or a friend accidentally filled their tank with gas. So your post, without context, can really confuse someone.
Just a thought, brother.
Stewart
#24
Stewart you are well respected with me on your advise here. I agree with validation and proof when available. On my original post;
Originally Posted by mtnsammy
I get in the singles regularly here in Big Bear. Great Batteries are really needed. Good ones won't do. I also add 1 gallon regular gas to the tank with the 40 gal fillup. I use the silver Diesel Kleen and only plug in when temps will go below 10. My Suzuki with a VW diesel has a real hard time in the singles but not the Ex. It will turn slower near zero but starts every time.
I do mention the 1;40 ratio. My main point is the real problem with OP seemed to be not additives but electrical. Hopefully the OP will find the real problem. I know these PSD can be a real PIA. Early I bought an AE scanner so I can weed out problems quickly. KL Hansen on another forum has a great coldstart/ hardstart tech series that is of immense value with these trucks. It even goes into the Glow Plug testing and such. I now back out so the OP can go on with his truck and the final repairs.
Originally Posted by mtnsammy
I get in the singles regularly here in Big Bear. Great Batteries are really needed. Good ones won't do. I also add 1 gallon regular gas to the tank with the 40 gal fillup. I use the silver Diesel Kleen and only plug in when temps will go below 10. My Suzuki with a VW diesel has a real hard time in the singles but not the Ex. It will turn slower near zero but starts every time.
I do mention the 1;40 ratio. My main point is the real problem with OP seemed to be not additives but electrical. Hopefully the OP will find the real problem. I know these PSD can be a real PIA. Early I bought an AE scanner so I can weed out problems quickly. KL Hansen on another forum has a great coldstart/ hardstart tech series that is of immense value with these trucks. It even goes into the Glow Plug testing and such. I now back out so the OP can go on with his truck and the final repairs.
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