Vin # problems 1963 Uni S/B

Hillbilly63 · #1 (**permalink**) 01-17-2013, 04:34 PM

Hi all.
I bought a 1963 Uni short bed project truck about 5 years ago off a guy who never registered it when he bought it. He had the signed transfers, but lost the registration paper. So I contacted the 2nd previous owner and he agreed to get a new copy of the registration. So I'm putting together a package of forms with the VIN ect. all filled out so all he has to do is sign off.

The problem I have is the Vin looks wrong (see photo) You guys say it should start with a F10XXXXXX mine is 96642A-4661014L

To further confuse me, my son just bought a 1961 Uni s/b, he has the registration, but no VIN tags are on the cab. His registration paper shows VIN # is 4661014L117125A all one # no dash in the middle and his first 7 digits are the same as my last ! I need to know what the correct VIN # is to enter on the paperwork. Thanks Jim

kjvforme · #2 (**permalink**) 01-17-2013, 11:07 PM

Need to get in touch with the NumberDummy. The number reversed from 61 to 63.
I can halfway decode, but I dont have the books to finish it.

kjvforme · #3 (**permalink**) 01-17-2013, 11:48 PM

Your trucks where built up in Canada and have a different numbering system than the US trucks.

The 63 what is the original paint color? 1HH says it would be a solid color truck but I cant find HH in the charts. If your truck had been shipped from the US it would have started with F10 and the DSO would have been B7.

Hillbilly63 · #4 (**permalink**) 01-18-2013, 12:52 AM

Thanks for the help, and pointing out the reverse vin's between 61-63 now it's starting to all make sense. So do all Canadian trucks have no VIN tag in thje glove box? Is the frame VIN the complete # or oly part of it? Thanks again. Jim

I have decoded it this far
4 - Ford V8
661 - ??
0 - F100
14 - 114" wb
L - left hand drive
(both mine and my sons are the same)
96642 - ??
A - 5000 gvw

here is a photo of when we brought the 63 home

kjvforme · #5 (**permalink**) 01-18-2013, 01:06 AM

661 should be just 66. 66 is integral cab (unibody). Then 10 would make it a f100.

kjvforme · #6 (**permalink**) 01-18-2013, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Hillbilly63

Thanks for the help, and pointing out the reverse vin's between 61-63 now it's starting to all make sense. So do all Canadian trucks have no VIN tag in thje glove box? Is the frame VIN the complete # or oly part of it? Thanks again. Jim

I have decoded it this far
4 - Ford V8
661 - ??
0 - F100
14 - 114" wb
L - left hand drive
(both mine and my sons are the same)
96642 - ??
A - 5000 gvw

here is a photo of when we brought the 63 home

she needs some love, but she'll be a runner one day.

McMERC · #7 (**permalink**) 03-26-2013, 12:59 AM

nice little S/B...always a diamond in the rough hiding somewhere !
before i found FTE and heard of number dummy i had always called ford archives. in 1980 i bought a 62 ford uni longbed and drove it home, once i realised what i had i wanted to know more. at the time they could verify production and even that it was a mid week build(not sure if he was yanking my chain )
there is alot of helpful people here and good info.

as a side note..do all these unibody projects start on the same trailer

ps. my unis are canadian built

kjvforme · #8 (**permalink**) 03-26-2013, 11:38 AM

Would like the information off the warranty plate for the registry.

kjvforme · #9 (**permalink**) 03-26-2013, 11:43 AM

96642A-4661014L
96642= serial number
A= gvw rating
4= Ford V8
66=Integral cab
10=F100
14= 114" wheelbase
L= Lefthand Drive

NumberDummy · #10 (**permalink**) 03-26-2013, 03:35 PM

10 series code refers to either Ford or Mercury 100. The Canadian Rating Plate (as you can see in post 1) has the SERIES listed by itself, specifies which is which.

A = 3,600-5,000 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.

1966 (1967/68) Mercury & Ford trucks assembled in Canada use the same Warranty Plate/codes and 11 digit VIN as US trucks.

I can decode all the 1965 Ford/Mercury Canadian Rating Plate codes using the 1964/72 truck catalog., but not prior years.

1946/64: Specific year(s) Ford Motor Co. of Canada Ltd parts catalog is required. Only catalog like this I have is 1953.

mercurypickups.com has some of this info.

kjvforme · #11 (**permalink**) 03-26-2013, 06:28 PM

So it could have read M100 , and would have a 1 or 5 to denote mercury v8 or mercury I-6?

NumberDummy · #12 (**permalink**) 03-26-2013, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kjvforme

So it could have read M100 , and would have a 1 or 5 to denote mercury v8 or mercury I-6?

VIN (1965) could begin with 1, 4, 5, 6 as all are gassers.

But these are Ford engines, not Merc's. Specific to Mercury only engine used in the '60's:

FE 410 installed in 1966/67 Mercury Parklanes. Why the hell did FoMoCo bother? 390, 427, 428 were also available.

kjvforme · #13 (**permalink**) 03-26-2013, 10:18 PM

But wouldnt 1 & 5 engines come with the mercury valve covers.

NumberDummy · #14 (**permalink**) 03-27-2013, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kjvforme

But wouldnt 1 & 5 engines come with the mercury valve covers.

I dunno, I've only seen one of these trucks in person, it was parked in a driveway on Cattle Point Rd. in Friday Harbor, San Juan Island WA

I know the Mercury FE cars came with Merc valve covers, but once removed...what do you have? A Ford engine!