Why do I keep running out of gas?
#61
I suspect your results come from the elapsing of time and not the adding of gasoline.
A dying ignition module that fails when it heats up and begins working again whenit cools off can give your symptoms. Would have been a good idea to check for spark & fuel as soon as it died but we're past that point now so I think it's a good time to get your sending unit and gauge wiring figured out while you've got all this apart. This isn't what's causing your no-run problems but it'd sure be nice to have a working gas gauge.
Do you have a volt/ohm meter?
A dying ignition module that fails when it heats up and begins working again whenit cools off can give your symptoms. Would have been a good idea to check for spark & fuel as soon as it died but we're past that point now so I think it's a good time to get your sending unit and gauge wiring figured out while you've got all this apart. This isn't what's causing your no-run problems but it'd sure be nice to have a working gas gauge.
Do you have a volt/ohm meter?
#62
I will also add that a full tune up is on the agenda for today/tomorrow, so maybe pulling the plugs will give us a clue? Is it possible that this is a spark issue in general?
That would make the fact that each time I've 'run out of gas' it's been in the first few gallons a coincidence and that would be sort of odd.
That would make the fact that each time I've 'run out of gas' it's been in the first few gallons a coincidence and that would be sort of odd.
#63
NO! DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING LIKE THAT RIGHT NOW!
By changing a whole bunch of things all at the same time, you then have a hard time figuring out where the problem is in the case that it now doesn't work (or work as expected).
You've got enough taken apart with your fuel system right now, don't go messing with the ignition right now, not until the fuel system is back together and we're confident it's correct.
By changing a whole bunch of things all at the same time, you then have a hard time figuring out where the problem is in the case that it now doesn't work (or work as expected).
You've got enough taken apart with your fuel system right now, don't go messing with the ignition right now, not until the fuel system is back together and we're confident it's correct.
#64
I suspect your results come from the elapsing of time and not the adding of gasoline.
A dying ignition module that fails when it heats up and begins working again whenit cools off can give your symptoms. Would have been a good idea to check for spark & fuel as soon as it died but we're past that point now so I think it's a good time to get your sending unit and gauge wiring figured out while you've got all this apart. This isn't what's causing your no-run problems but it'd sure be nice to have a working gas gauge.
Do you have a volt/ohm meter?
A dying ignition module that fails when it heats up and begins working again whenit cools off can give your symptoms. Would have been a good idea to check for spark & fuel as soon as it died but we're past that point now so I think it's a good time to get your sending unit and gauge wiring figured out while you've got all this apart. This isn't what's causing your no-run problems but it'd sure be nice to have a working gas gauge.
Do you have a volt/ohm meter?
I will be thrilled to have a gas gauge. It's the only thing that I haven't fixed on the dash. I plan to pick up the single reservoir unit I found on a Bronco tomorrow. I don't really need two tanks.
I don't have a volt/ohm meter, but I'm happy to pick one up today. I knew I'd need one sooner or later anyway. Do I need anything specific or can I just grab whatever looks decent?
#65
NO! DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING LIKE THAT RIGHT NOW!
By changing a whole bunch of things all at the same time, you then have a hard time figuring out where the problem is in the case that it now doesn't work (or work as expected).
You've got enough taken apart with your fuel system right now, don't go messing with the ignition right now, not until the fuel system is back together and we're confident it's correct.
By changing a whole bunch of things all at the same time, you then have a hard time figuring out where the problem is in the case that it now doesn't work (or work as expected).
You've got enough taken apart with your fuel system right now, don't go messing with the ignition right now, not until the fuel system is back together and we're confident it's correct.
#66
I'm confused by your use of single reservoir terminology? Do you mean - one gas tank?
You don't need a high-end volt/ohm meter for the basic tests you'll be doing, a $5 variant from Harbor Freight would even work.
We need the wiring diagram of the tank selector switch/dash gauge/tank selector valve/electric fuel pumps for your year. They've been posted before and are available, just need to find them. Maybe I can get Ralph to jump in.
In the meantime, figure out what kind of fuel pump(s) you have and where they're located and what powers them....
You don't need a high-end volt/ohm meter for the basic tests you'll be doing, a $5 variant from Harbor Freight would even work.
We need the wiring diagram of the tank selector switch/dash gauge/tank selector valve/electric fuel pumps for your year. They've been posted before and are available, just need to find them. Maybe I can get Ralph to jump in.
In the meantime, figure out what kind of fuel pump(s) you have and where they're located and what powers them....
#67
I read about it here:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/4...tor-valve.html
#68
That is good info to have. Now it is back to why it isn't able to draw properly. Might be the venting issue, especially with that much fuel still in the tank. Otherwise there may be a little bit of a leak in the line between the tank and the pump. If the line has a leak, it won't be able to effectively pull fuel.
Edit: Forgot, but if you check the sending unit out of the tank the readings should be from ~10 ohms to, at full, to ~72 ohms, with no open spots in between.
#70
#71
Do you have your charcoal canisters hooked up? You might want to unhook the line that vents from the tank to the charcoal canister and make sure it's not plugged. I would also check the fuel filter in the picture you posted (where the tank selector is supposed to be) and make sure it's not plugged up. I have a similar setup as you and I don't think the factory carb setups had a filter between the tank and the mech. pump. It may not be the problem but you could have an unnecessary restriction there.
#73
I'm confused by your use of single reservoir terminology? Do you mean - one gas tank?
You don't need a high-end volt/ohm meter for the basic tests you'll be doing, a $5 variant from Harbor Freight would even work.
We need the wiring diagram of the tank selector switch/dash gauge/tank selector valve/electric fuel pumps for your year. They've been posted before and are available, just need to find them. Maybe I can get Ralph to jump in.
In the meantime, figure out what kind of fuel pump(s) you have and where they're located and what powers them....
You don't need a high-end volt/ohm meter for the basic tests you'll be doing, a $5 variant from Harbor Freight would even work.
We need the wiring diagram of the tank selector switch/dash gauge/tank selector valve/electric fuel pumps for your year. They've been posted before and are available, just need to find them. Maybe I can get Ralph to jump in.
In the meantime, figure out what kind of fuel pump(s) you have and where they're located and what powers them....
Chris, I just came online and quickly read through this. It does not look like this has been answered... The 1986 F150 with 4.9L has the feedback carburetor with a mechanical fuel pump located just to the left of the distributor.