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Old 12-23-2012, 09:17 PM
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R134a ban

Does anyone know if they will be banning the sale of 134a this coming year like they did with R-12?

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Old 12-23-2012, 09:46 PM
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Old 12-26-2012, 06:17 PM
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No, DuPont's patent on R134a is not due to expire for a while yet. They were about to lose the patent on R12, suddenly R12 gets banned. One of those things that make you go HMMMMMM???
 
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Old 12-26-2012, 06:35 PM
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So we all better stock up then. Ive heard the EPA is changing to a different refrigerant starting in 2013.
 
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:20 PM
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I'm a EPA certified tech...i checked the EPA website and there is no mention of any pending regs, etc.....GM is planning to introduce a "green" refrigerant to a few select cars in 2013...I would suspect it is in response to euraope which has banned new cars from using 134 for a while now.....IIRR, they are using CO2.
 
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So it wont disappear from store shelves this year?
 
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So it wont disappear from store shelves this year?
No & there is no hint of any legislation to ban the sales to private individuals (small quantities)
 
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Propane works great. If you buy the old "freon" in mexico, this is usually what you get . But, I understand flammable refrigerants are not allowed when retrofitting R-12, but the law is not written in a way where you cannot retrofit to R-134, then replace with propane.
 
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Old 12-31-2012, 12:11 PM
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Propane is not a desirable refrigerant. Been the cause of more than one fire/explosion.
 
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Old 12-31-2012, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jbancroft
Propane works great. If you buy the old "freon" in mexico, this is usually what you get . But, I understand flammable refrigerants are not allowed when retrofitting R-12, but the law is not written in a way where you cannot retrofit to R-134, then replace with propane.
actually, most states have laws banning hydrocarbon based refrigerants for automotive use.
 
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Old 12-31-2012, 02:47 PM
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Hydrocarbon refrigerants are specifically prohibited for motor vehicles in the USA.
 
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