Got rearended -- Pictures
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Plus, I've heard/read that it's against the law in some states to drive around with a hitch on and no trailer. It's been a couple years since I looked into it so I can't remember the exact details..
#18
This is a great example not so much of how tough these trucks are, but more of why lift kits can be dangerous. The Envoy wasn't severely damaged so much because your truck was tougher than it, but simply because the structures designed for the impact didn't even come in contact with your truck. Had your truck not been lifted the Envoy's bumper would have been better able to manage the crash forces than the grille and radiator, and lots of damage would have been prevented.
Glad to hear it worked out for you, but much more damage was inflicted on the Envoy than there should have.
Ask THIS GUY what he thinks of lift kits. I rode in his front passenger seat three weeks before it was crushed. These trucks fare badly in rollovers, and lifting the center of gravity for safety doesn't make much sense to me.
I think lift kits are dangerous.
Glad to hear it worked out for you, but much more damage was inflicted on the Envoy than there should have.
Ask THIS GUY what he thinks of lift kits. I rode in his front passenger seat three weeks before it was crushed. These trucks fare badly in rollovers, and lifting the center of gravity for safety doesn't make much sense to me.
I think lift kits are dangerous.
#19
I used to do the same, but then all these threads started popping up about the risk of doing more damage (frame) with the hitch in, etc.
Plus, I've heard/read that it's against the law in some states to drive around with a hitch on and no trailer. It's been a couple years since I looked into it so I can't remember the exact details..
Plus, I've heard/read that it's against the law in some states to drive around with a hitch on and no trailer. It's been a couple years since I looked into it so I can't remember the exact details..
#20
But did ruin the 7-pin connector and bumper.
Personally i am more worried about backing into a car with the
hitch sticking out. Getting backup camera for christmas.
#21
As crazy said bumper height mismatch is what mattered.
i had a rear ender in my tahoe. Kids in civic didn't see me
turning and slammed on their brakes, noise diving low.
Lifted the rear of my tahoe turned me 90* as they hit my
Left rear. I broke seat from impact the civic was totalled.
I drove it home after visit to ER after putting seat verticle again
i had a rear ender in my tahoe. Kids in civic didn't see me
turning and slammed on their brakes, noise diving low.
Lifted the rear of my tahoe turned me 90* as they hit my
Left rear. I broke seat from impact the civic was totalled.
I drove it home after visit to ER after putting seat verticle again
#22
There's one in every crowd. "THIS GUY" was likely driving too fast for the conditions and rolled his vehicle. I see this every time it snows in Colorado. People with four-wheel drive think they are invincible until they have to try to stop, and the heavier the vehicle the worse it gets.
Glad to hear nobody got hurt and your truck fared well.
Originally Posted by 2000silverbullet
I used to do the same, but then all these threads started popping up about the risk of doing more damage (frame) with the hitch in, etc.
My perspective is different than many here I guess...in an accident I could care less about how well my truck makes it out. The health and well-being of everyone involves trumps material objects of any value. It wouldn't matter who was at fault, I'd gladly sacrifice my vehicle for the other party's safety.
#23
Glad everyone is ok. Sounds like a texting incident to me. The kid was never looking (no skid marks, well atleast on the road). The two vehicles behind yours appear to be stock and sustained considerable damage. So in this accident I'd say the score is 1-0. In a rollover situation it may fair differently.Dscabras truck is also wider than stock as well which would aid and reverse some of the center of gravity issues added with the lift. If the Honda had hit you I'd bet you'd have sustained more damage and destroyed his car and maybe him.
There have been a few bad drivers looking to target my truck lately. Most of the time its a 15 YO vehicle thats likely not even road worthy. I'm sure they all have great insurance policies too.
There have been a few bad drivers looking to target my truck lately. Most of the time its a 15 YO vehicle thats likely not even road worthy. I'm sure they all have great insurance policies too.
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Glad everyone is ok. Sounds like a texting incident to me. The kid was never looking (no skid marks, well atleast on the road). The two vehicles behind yours appear to be stock and sustained considerable damage. So in this accident I'd say the score is 1-0. In a rollover situation it may fair differently.Dscabras truck is also wider than stock as well which would aid and reverse some of the center of gravity issues added with the lift. If the Honda had hit you I'd bet you'd have sustained more damage and destroyed his car and maybe him.
There have been a few bad drivers looking to target my truck lately. Most of the time its a 15 YO vehicle thats likely not even road worthy. I'm sure they all have great insurance policies too.
There have been a few bad drivers looking to target my truck lately. Most of the time its a 15 YO vehicle thats likely not even road worthy. I'm sure they all have great insurance policies too.
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Haha, I didn't think you'd like my reply. Many don't, but I guess if we all agreed the world would be a boring place. My main point was simply that the Envoy suffered so much damage because it took a hit in a place it wasn't designed to. Because of your lift.
Glad to hear nobody got hurt and your truck fared well.
I agree with this, the hitch is designed not to have any give to it for safe towing, which isn't what you want in a collision. Not sure if you saw the pics from when my wife wrecked my '08, but it was the frame damage that ended up totalling the truck out. Different circumstance of course, as the impact to the axle bypassed any absorbing structures and went straight to the frame courtesy of relatively unyielding radius arms.
My perspective is different than many here I guess...in an accident I could care less about how well my truck makes it out. The health and well-being of everyone involves trumps material objects of any value. It wouldn't matter who was at fault, I'd gladly sacrifice my vehicle for the other party's safety.
Glad to hear nobody got hurt and your truck fared well.
I agree with this, the hitch is designed not to have any give to it for safe towing, which isn't what you want in a collision. Not sure if you saw the pics from when my wife wrecked my '08, but it was the frame damage that ended up totalling the truck out. Different circumstance of course, as the impact to the axle bypassed any absorbing structures and went straight to the frame courtesy of relatively unyielding radius arms.
My perspective is different than many here I guess...in an accident I could care less about how well my truck makes it out. The health and well-being of everyone involves trumps material objects of any value. It wouldn't matter who was at fault, I'd gladly sacrifice my vehicle for the other party's safety.
But reading what Crazy001 made me think back to a very bad accident that I was nearly involved.
Guy racing down a road I heard him coming and looked up and saw him. I was ready to get rear ended
and then he pops out into oncoming traffic and heads on a lady. Both were killed and I feel still had he just hit me
in that F250 I had she would still be here and I would be ok because his was a small car. 2 cars @45mph
she tried to stop he even pushed her cad back. His car bounced back onto the guard rail and looked like a
crushed beer can with a person in it. Her car was not so crushed. Something in the car went into her and she
bled out. This was about 1997 when that happened and I still think about it every now and then. This post triggered
it and sorry if I post this but I need to get it out. I guess it is sort of survivor guilt but I know that I did all that I could
and being one of the first responders did help but still. I talked to her husband about a year later.
This is still hard to deal with years later.
Sean
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My perspective is different than many here I guess...in an accident I could care less about how well my truck makes it out. The health and well-being of everyone involves trumps material objects of any value. It wouldn't matter who was at fault, I'd gladly sacrifice my vehicle for the other party's safety.
Also a bigger mass doesn't always mean safer. I'm sure for every example where mass helps there are examples where it hurts in an accident. Anyway I'll get off my soapbox and glad to hear everyone is ok.
#28
glad everyone made it out safe! thats ALL that matters.
the envoy did sustain much worse front damage then if his f-250 was stock, but that's not his fault. blame the kid in the Honda. we all modify our trucks in different ways. its not everyone cup of tea but if that was the case we would all be driving white Camry's...
i've been rear ended twice both times in my explorer. my explorer was lifted 3 1/2" over stock with 31" tires. first time i was hit by a Yukon XL and because i was lifted my little explorer matched her 1/2ton bumper height perfectly. the second one(13 days later) was a '97 jeep TJ with a 2" lift and 33's again our bumpers matched perfectly. so lifting is not always a bad thing...had i not been lifted in the explorer i would have been pasted right in the hatch rather then dead on in the center of the bumper. the fact this explorer was lifted also saved my dad from much worse injury's when the truck was totaled hitting a school bus in pretty much a T-bone situation, different situation i know...
the envoy did sustain much worse front damage then if his f-250 was stock, but that's not his fault. blame the kid in the Honda. we all modify our trucks in different ways. its not everyone cup of tea but if that was the case we would all be driving white Camry's...
i've been rear ended twice both times in my explorer. my explorer was lifted 3 1/2" over stock with 31" tires. first time i was hit by a Yukon XL and because i was lifted my little explorer matched her 1/2ton bumper height perfectly. the second one(13 days later) was a '97 jeep TJ with a 2" lift and 33's again our bumpers matched perfectly. so lifting is not always a bad thing...had i not been lifted in the explorer i would have been pasted right in the hatch rather then dead on in the center of the bumper. the fact this explorer was lifted also saved my dad from much worse injury's when the truck was totaled hitting a school bus in pretty much a T-bone situation, different situation i know...
#29
I used to do the same, but then all these threads started popping up about the risk of doing more damage (frame) with the hitch in, etc.
Plus, I've heard/read that it's against the law in some states to drive around with a hitch on and no trailer. It's been a couple years since I looked into it so I can't remember the exact details..
Plus, I've heard/read that it's against the law in some states to drive around with a hitch on and no trailer. It's been a couple years since I looked into it so I can't remember the exact details..