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Old 11-10-2012, 07:08 AM
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Oil Capacity Question

Changing the oil on my 2000 EX today and looked up the type and quantity in the manual.

Says 5w20 and 6 quarts.

I usually use what the manual says but wanted to ask if that's what you regulars are using in your V10 Ex's?

Also - only 6 quarts really? I have a 04 Dodge Ram 4.6L V8 that holds that much, I was expecting a 6.8L V10 to hold more than that?
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Nope, 6 quarts is all you need. I just did mine last weekend! Remember that engine size doesn't really have much to do with the size of your oil sump. 3V modular engines use 7 quarts, the 5.0L Coyote used in the F150 and Mustang holds 8 quarts, and my last 6.4L diesel engine used 15!
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SAE 5W-20 Synthetic Blend Motor Oil by Motorcraft is the oil I use. I am sure that there are people that use all types of fancy stuff. I think the main thing is to keep the oil clean. If I am just driving aroung the oil looks good for alot longer than when I am towing the boat.
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My 6.0 F350 used 16+, never figured it out seems sometimes it would be right on 16, then other times needed 16 and a little more to top it off
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I think the main thing is to keep the oil clean.
That's a very common myth, but it really has nothing to do with how well the oil can do it's job.

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Myth #2 - If the oil turns dark or black quickly, it's no good. You can tell the condition of oil by the look, smell or color of it. Dirty (black) motor oil means the oil is breaking down.
Fact: A common misconception is that high quality motor oil should come out of an engine looking clean at the time of an oil change. Nothing could be further from the truth. If the oil is doing its job of cleaning the engine, then it should be dirty when it is drained. Havoline motor oil will start looking dirty a short time after it is put to use. In the case of diesel engines, the oil will look dirty within a few hours of operation. These are signs that the motor oil is doing its job of keeping soot, dirt, and other combustion contaminants in suspension to be carried to the filter or removed from the crankcase when the oil is changed. Havoline motor oils have been formulated to hold these contaminants in suspension until they can be removed with an oil and filter change.
Also take look down at - Bob is the Oil Guy, it's a great forum with lots of knowledgable people. Here's an example, check this thread out:

DIRTY ENGINE OIL? - Bob Is The Oil Guy

Oil color has absolutely nothing to do with how well it protects your engine. I used to drive commercial trucks, and we did 30-40,000 mile oil change intervals. After about 5,000 miles the oil was as black as the tires, and most of those engines will, and have, see a million miles. If you really want to see what's going on with your oil spend the $25 and get an OIL ANALYSIS. I've a few in the past, and I'll be sampling my Excursion's oil when it's time to change. I'm very curious to see what 1,550 miles of real hard work does to engine oil!
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Crazy001 yeah I have read Bob the oil guy and lots of other info, test reports and such. Even the vehicle manufactors have pushed the change intervials out to around 7500 miles, I just like to keep the oil changed at around 3000. Oil doesn't cost that much so that isn't a really big deal,and I can take it to the recycle center so that G3 has something to work with
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If you really want to see what's going on with your oil spend the $25 and get an OIL ANALYSIS.
Blackstone Labs

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Thanks Sean, I was intending to throw that link into my previous post but I forgot. I also use Blackstone, they are easy to work with and reasonably priced!
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A larger oil capacity oil pan will keep an engine running cooler and the contamination level is also reduced due to it being diluted but the V-10 has an oil cooler above the oil filter and the available space allowed for the oil pan has a lot to do with it also. The V-10 is not really that "big", it just has 2 more cylinders. It is 73 pounds lighter and 10" shorter than the 460 cubic inch V-8 it replaced.
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It is 640 pounds lighter and 10" shorter than the 460 cubic inch V-8 it replaced.
Not quite Brent...

The V10 weighs around 640 lbs, and most numbers for the 460 put it around 720-750 lbs. So it's between 80-110 lbs lighter.
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Not quite Brent...

The V10 weighs around 640 lbs, and most numbers for the 460 put it around 720-750 lbs. So it's between 80-110 lbs lighter.
I thought that was an awful lot also so I re-read it;
Ford V10 engines replaced a 460-cubic inch V8 engine used for many years; this large power plant weighed in at approximately 713 pounds. V10 motors weigh considerably less -- about 640 lbs. They are actually much smaller than the old 460 engines they replaced; nearly 10 inches shorter, with similar width and height dimensions. Ford also produces other version..............................
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I recently purchased a 2002 Super Duty with the V10 which is due for an oil change.

I was astonished to see that the owner's manual does not specify the oil capacity of the 6.8 liter gas motor. At least it doesn't "technically" depending how you interpret it, since the only entry for a gas motor seems to qualify the statement as being applicable to the 5.7 liter V8 motor.

I guess I'll have 7 quarts of 5W20 on-hand just in case and try 6 and see where that gets me (with filter change of course).
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I recently purchased a 2002 Super Duty with the V10 which is due for an oil change.

I was astonished to see that the owner's manual does not specify the oil capacity of the 6.8 liter gas motor. At least it doesn't "technically" depending how you interpret it, since the only entry for a gas motor seems to qualify the statement as being applicable to the 5.7 liter V8 motor.

I guess I'll have 7 quarts of 5W20 on-hand just in case and try 6 and see where that gets me (with filter change of course).
I used just under 6 quarts and I was full up so be careful not to overfill it. I bit low is better than even a fraction too full. Put 5 in then check and fill from there up to a maximum of 6 to get you in the middle to top end of cross hairs.
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I recently purchased a 2002 Super Duty with the V10 which is due for an oil change.

I was astonished to see that the owner's manual does not specify the oil capacity of the 6.8 liter gas motor. At least it doesn't "technically" depending how you interpret it, since the only entry for a gas motor seems to qualify the statement as being applicable to the 5.7 liter V8 motor.

I guess I'll have 7 quarts of 5W20 on-hand just in case and try 6 and see where that gets me (with filter change of course).
Hi RealTruck, welcome to FTE!

It's not that it's not listed, but you're reading it wrong. There is on 5.7L V8 engine, but rather both gasoline engines take 5.7 liters of oil, which is equal to 6.0 quarts. Note the column on the left states "gasoline engines", and the 5.7L(6.0 Quarts) is under the capacity column.

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Both gasoline engines take 6 quarts of oil.
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D'Oh :facepalm
As a newbie to this community, I mistook the displacement of the V8 at 5.7L (it is actually 5.4L apparently) and as noted, the capacity figure for ALL gas engines, whether 5.4L or 6.8L, is 5.7L or 6 quarts in the Queens tongue.

Thanks for clearing that up (and for the other post to be cautious about overfilling).

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