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Old 11-06-2012, 04:30 PM
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Custom F250 Crew Cab Shortbed

Hi All,

New to the forum, I would like to build a custom F250 Crew Cab Short bed and of course have many questions and would appreciate any help or opinions. I plan on using a '96 or '97 F250 CC SB Frame, '87 to '97 Crew Cab, '92 to '97 Front End and Short Bed, and manual transmission. I am leaning towards a 5.8L stroked to 408ci and ZF S5-42, or 7.3L IDI turbo with '99+ 6 speed, but am open to ideas (even Cummins, Detroit, 351C, etc).

Does the VIN follow the frame or the body/cab (emissions concerns)

Are the '96/'97 CC SB frames the same between 4x4 and 2WD?

Which engine should I go with; 7.3L IDI, 7.3L Turbo, 7.5L, or 5.8L?
I dislike my current 4.9L 5spd 4x4 RegCab SB due to lack of TQ and HP, and the crappy Mazda tranny. Reliability is key, but fuel economy is somewhat of a concern.

Which Trans should I use T18 4 spd, NP435 4 spd, ZF 5 spd, or '99+ 6 speed (diesel)?
Are the manual transmissions the same between the 4x4 and 2WD trucks?

What is the best transfer case?

Which is the best Front End; F150 TTB coil spring Dana 44, F250 TTB leaf spring Dana 50, or F350 solid axle Dana 60?

Please tell me where I am right, where I am wrong, and where I am just plain crazy.

Thanks,
Dan
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Old 11-06-2012, 09:54 PM
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Why not just find a crew cab, short box pickup to buy?
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:17 PM
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In my area 460's are the most common by far, and if your going for a lifted 4wd. I would go for one of those if I were going to use gas. Even a stroked 5.8 will be down on power where you really need it compared to a stock 460 much less a warmed over one.

The 7.3 IDI is also quite common in my area, and if I were in your shoes. I would probily get one of these, and do my conversions. While slightly upgrading the 7.3 to get her back on the road sooner. Then I would save for a good cummins swap down the road.

Emissions in my area of California are pretty strict, but not to much of an concern if you have a early diesel. So no converting a gas to diesel as far as I understand the law. Where you live maybe different. But swaps from gas to bigger or new gas is easy enough. Along with repowering diesels with different or newer ones.
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I agree with the other guys, why not just find a crew cab short bed 4x4 460 or 7.3 truck and call it good? Then find a 6 speed tranny for it if you want. Seems like it would save you alot of time and money.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:41 AM
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I can't seem to find many 4x4's or any manual trans CC SB trucks in my area. Can't seem to find any in the entire country for a reasonable price.

Thought maybe if the VIN follows the body / cab I could get better emissions requirements.

What is easier, swap from 2wd to 4x4, or Auto to manual?
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:59 AM
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Auto to manual would be easier.

Also I am starting to get serious about getting a DD truck, and I haven't seen a CCSB in the years your looking at. If they were out then they must be awfully rare, and yes I want one myself. Although I will either chop her down to a 6ft bed or maybe a shorter bed if I think it will look right.

Also you maybe thinking about the Superduties, and thinking the earlier trucks must of been that way too.
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I would go for one of those if I were going to use gas.Click the image to open in full size.
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i had a 1997 f250 5 speed cc sb and gas milage was *****ty 8 around town and 12 on highway with a good wind behind ya, stick with what you have swap it to a zf5 tranny from a 302 or 351 those 300s are great motors id dang near give my left are for your truck i love em the right gears and tranny and that truck would pull the worl buddy
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Mileage (combined) with my 4.9L 5spd has been around 11 mpg. Pretty crappy, I was going to do the ZF swap when my tranny went bad, but couldn't find one anywhere at the time. The 302 V8 used the M5OD, didn't get the ZF until the 351.
I also need more space than the Reg cab. I doubt the 4.9L would be a good engine in a crew cab... Maybe I should settle for an extended cab long bed...
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ive seen f350s with the 300 i love those motors
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