Hi Guys,

Well, I'm having loads of fun hunting down items to pep up my 1971 Ford Pickup (360). One of the things I want to do is put on an aluminum high rise intake & 4 BBL Carb.

There's a guy nearby me that has a Motorcraft 750 4 BBL that was running fine, and just came off a Ford 460 V-8. I can get it for $50. Does that sound like a good fit? Thanks for any help. I really appreciate it.

Bob

 

Hi Bob, Welcome to FTE & the BUMP forum.

No sir, DO NOT buy either. The 360 is an early emissions engine, while it is still a horse, it is considered a dog by many. About 600 cfms is all that engine can handle and it can handle it well. It is a pulling engine not a hi revving race engine.

Suggest you start on a plan to rebuild one day, using 390 crank & rods, Edelbrock Performer or similar intake, add headers, a RV cam and you can have that big horse.



John

 

Thank you very, very much! I had been looking around, and researching this. It's great to hear from somebody who knows. I actually found a guy online who sells rebuilt carbs and has a Holley 600 CFM (Model 4160 w/ Ford auto trans kickdown) that sounded like a good fit. And....I found some stock 360 4 BBL intake manifolds that were removed from 360's. Maybe I'll go that route!

Bob

 

There's no such thing as a 360 4V intake manifold. 360's were only installed in 1968/76 F100/350's and all came with 2 barrel carburetors.

1965/71 390 4V Passenger Car intake manifolds will bolt right on 360's, as will 1974/76 F100/350 390 4V intake manifolds. But, these manifolds are cast iron, just like your 2V manifold, weigh a ton.

Try reachin' over the grille or fender to remove one a these manifolds by yourself. Not an easy nor a pleasant experience.

What you might have found is some 1973/78 361 4V cast iron intake manifolds. PASS, you don't want any! The 361 is an FT engine, only installed in 500 and larger trucks.

360/390's share the same engine block, the bore (4.05") is the same. The stroke is different: 360: 3.50" / 390: 3.78"

All that's necessary to convert a 360 to a 390 is the 390's crank, rods, pistons and rings. EVERYTHING else is the same.

 

Thanks for your insight/correction. My bad. What I was viewing did not say it was from a 360. It was, however, from a Ford FE Engine that would fit a 360.

Is it your opinion that an aluminum intake, such as an Edelbrock Performer, etc., manifold would be better? Just as long as I don't "over-carb" it, and stick with a 600 CFM?

Thanks,
Bob

 

Absolutely, why mess with a cast iron manifold if you don't have to.

Just because it's an FE engine doesn't mean the parts will interchange. 1958/64 FE engines were only installed in Passenger Cars, have rounded valve covers without holes in them for oil cap/smog valve.

Have an oil fill tube on the right (passenger) side front of the engine. The bolt pattern on the block for the right/left steel/rubber insulators is different than 1965/71 FE engines.

The flywheel has 148 teeth, 1965/76 has 184 teeth. Three different 1958/64 FE waterpumps, none are the same as 1965/76 that use one waterpump. And the list goes on and on.

btw: Do you think your friend at the local shop that 'verified' the "14,000 actual" miles would know some/all of this jazz? Probably not.

I know your truck pretty well as I bought a 1971 Ranger XLT 390/C6 brand new, was a Ford partsman for 35 years (1962/97) and have been in this hobby since Ike was prez.

 

Thanks so much. I appreciate it. By the way, my friend at the shop actually does know all this stuff - when I first was going to get it, he began telling me all about the Fords, FE Engines, etc.

I'm the dummy here - just trying to learn some of this on my own. I don't plan on trying to make a hot rod out of this truck. I just want to have some fun, and boost it a bit in an "old school" sort of way.

I haven't messed around with cars since I was a kid. My first ever vehicle was a 1964 Ford Fairlane w/260 V8, 4 BBL, 4 Speed. The man who gave me the $ to buy this truck used to have a 1968 Ford Torino GT Fastback with a hot 390 in it (from the factory!). He currently has a cherry 1974 F100 w/360.

So, I just really appreciate all the expert info from you guys. I'll take all I can get! Thanks!

Bob

 

I put one of these Holley 2300 Street performers on my 390 recently, Love it! Was extremely easy to tune right out of the box and seems to be a great match for the truck, Its pretty much a bolt on and go carb.
AND best part, you keep your stock 2bbl intake manifold.

Holley 0-4412S Holley 2300 Street 2-Barrel Carburetors & Kits

 

Bob, The performer is a decent intake for your 360. But as posted earlier don't add anything like that until you rebuild it with more compression. You will be wasting your time.


John

 

Thanks John,

I have pretty much settled on that - My plan is to get a Professionally Rebuilt Holley 600 CFM (Model 4160 - $215) with a stock 4 Barrel Intake manifold that I can get for about $50 - $75.

Like you say - I'm not building a street rod. Just pumping it up a tad. Basically, it's going to be used to haul hay. I just want to have a little fun. I have a local guy who is going to put on a quality low restriction dual exhaust w glasspaks, as well. I'm not sticking a cam, etc., into this puppy.

Thanks for the info!

Bob

 

Hi Guys,

I'm planning on going with a Holley 600 CFM Carb (Model 4160). I don't need any more than that. Can anyone tell me what the "Ford Kickdown" on this carb is? Is that important? And, do I need electric choke or manual?

One last question - I'm looking at some stock used 4 BBL FE intake manifolds for my 360. In another thread, there was a discussion about the "S" manifolds vs. the "T" manifolds. I'm guessing there will be a big S or T that I'll be able to see. Which one would be best for my 360?

Thank you all so much!
Bob

 

Look at Bob's page of intakes, the dark blues are T & S FE Factory Intake Manifolds




John