OK, this is related to another issue, but basic question on these trucks - can you remove the three bolts securing the steering gear box to the frame and gently move the box away from the frame a few inches, whilst keeping the PS lines still attached to the box and also the box still attached to the steering wheel column shaft? I just need maybe two inches clearance between steering gear box and frame.

 

No, don't try anything like that. The steering box is extremely heavy. If you need it moved from where it's located, take the time to safely remove it all the way. Don't take shortcuts with a giant chunk of cast iron.

 

Completely agree......just removed the steering box from Buford 10 minutes ago, and while it's a large pain in the posterior, it's the only way to go. The box is one heavy monkey, and it can damage both soft and hard lines if it slips and yanks on them while falling. I must have a different box, as mine has 4 bolts holding it to the frame, but the principle is the same. Too heavy to let precariously balance or hang somewhere. I'm not saying it can't be done, but it's risky.

 

It is attatched at the steering shaft. I don't think it will allow much movement. Between that and the pitman arm it shouldn't fall too much. Maybe use a floor jack under it lightly. If the steering shaft was disconected it would move no problem.

Still have to think that taking it out is the best thing. Why do you need to move it?

 

yeah you can pull those bolts and move it out of the way, I've done it before. One bit of advice is to wire it to the bracketry on the engine or something sturdy above it so it doesn't drop. It is heavy, but not THAT heavy. depending on the style steering shaft yours has, I'm betting the pitman and the shaft would pretty much hold it in place even without wiring it off.

 

It will still be attached to the pitman arm (and linkage) from below and the steering column shaft from above. I had also planned to put a light jack underneath. I don't need to lower it. Just move it horizontally about 2-3 inches.

 

We understand what you're asking, but the answer is NO, do not do it because it presents a serious safety hazard to both you and the truck because of its weight and shape.

 

To clarify, I'm speaking about the one on my 74 F100 and not on my 77 F150, if that makes any difference.

 

You're not getting it, are you? It does not make a difference. This warning applies to ALL steering boxes. NO shortcuts when it comes to heavy equipment. End of story!

 

I got it - they're the same steering box, just checked. thanks again for the safety considerations, seriously.

 

No worries

 

just be careful. ask wife or neighbor to spot you. it will be ok.

 

Nice term, "spot". Reminds of someone giving you a liftoff and spot while attempting a max effort bench press! I once needed a "spot" when pulling down a 45 gallon fuel tank that was about 4/5 full of fuel. Released straps prematurely on an old 90's Suburban. I was stronger back then and pushed it off me, but had nowhere to go with it. I couldn't let it go, because it would've ripped the quick connect lines off of fittings (and that would've been hell to replace). I yelled for my son who happened to be shooting hoops in the driveway and he got my transmission jack to the rescue!

 

I changed mine out a couple of months ago with out the engine in it. Believe what they say " it's a heavy dude" and could get away quickly.
The only way i would try to do it the way you are asking is to get a couple bolts about 3" longer than what's it it . then remove 2 of the originals and put those in place . Then remove the last one and disconnect the rag joint coupling and try to slide it in then . I'v never done it so i don't know if that will work.

 

You'd have to have the front wheels slightly off the ground, in order to pivot the steering linkage very slightly (and easily, since the ground won't have friction w/wheels).