The EX decided not to start
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The EX decided not to start
The ol ladys EX has a no start, she put it in reverse and it shut off. We got ficm sync and good volts but no cam/ckp sync, no signal from cpk. Is there a SG2 code for cam signal? I would like to elminate harness chafing before i get parts, the truck is 900 miles from me and 200 miles from a ford dealer so I would like to have it figured out before I get there a parts run would suck once Im up there. Thanks ed.Hpo system also checks out, how is she getting ficm sync and no cam/cpk sync with no crank signal?
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I don't know of a x-gauge to monitor the signal but there have been a couple of different codes posted for the sync yes/no. May want to try the other two:
SYC 07E02209CD 0462050906CD 3000 000100010000 SYC CAM/CRANK POSITION SENSOR SYNC (1= IN SYNC)
SYC 07E02209CD 0462050906CD 3001 000100010000 SYC ALTERNATE
SYC 07E02209CD 0462050906CD 3701 000100010000 SYC ALTERNATE
SYC 07E02209CD 0462050906CD 3000 000100010000 SYC CAM/CRANK POSITION SENSOR SYNC (1= IN SYNC)
SYC 07E02209CD 0462050906CD 3001 000100010000 SYC ALTERNATE
SYC 07E02209CD 0462050906CD 3701 000100010000 SYC ALTERNATE
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Hello Tony!
Sorry I haven't got ahold of you in awhile - things have been pretty crazy!
How many miles do you have on the truck so far? Sorry about the no-start for sure! I do think (IIRC) that it is not unheard of to have a FICM Sync without a Cam/Crank Sync - when one of those sensors is bad. Do you have an RPM signal when you crank?
Another thing to check is the fuel pulse width. You will not get a fuel pulse width signal without a CKP signal.
Sorry I haven't got ahold of you in awhile - things have been pretty crazy!
How many miles do you have on the truck so far? Sorry about the no-start for sure! I do think (IIRC) that it is not unheard of to have a FICM Sync without a Cam/Crank Sync - when one of those sensors is bad. Do you have an RPM signal when you crank?
Another thing to check is the fuel pulse width. You will not get a fuel pulse width signal without a CKP signal.
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Hey Mark, the Ex has 130k on it. Well knowing that its not uncommon to have no sync is a load off my mind. I'll have Laurel load the SG for rpms and check it tomorrow. She isn't in the best mind set to load any more numbers into the SG and the battries could use a charge Im sure.Thanks for jumpin in with that info. This is the first issue we've had with the EX in the 5 or so years of having it.
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I hope I dont mislead you (or have to eat my words on it), but going back to the manuals, it seems to be clearly stated that the FICM Sync comes from valid Cam/Crank signals (contrary to my earlier post) ..... however I seem to recall that PCM issues can result in a FICM sync without getting Cam/Crank Sync. Hopefully a Tech will set me straight!
When you say you are getting no signal, have you checked resistance on the wires at the PCM plug or is it just from the SGII?
When you say you are getting no signal, have you checked resistance on the wires at the PCM plug or is it just from the SGII?
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Might not hurt to load in FPW=Fuel pulse width as long as it wont cause you a Divorce LOL I know what you going threw Iv been in your shoes
But FPW is kinda a double check as when everything is Good CMP/CKP Sync and FICM Sync the FICM Will fire the Inject and FPW How I see it
If FPW sits on 0 then you know the FICM isnt firing the Injectors
This is First time I heard FICM would sync without CMP/CKP Sync Interesting for shure
I thought the Same as you Did Tony about this^^^ But Mark does Talk to alot of People
But FPW is kinda a double check as when everything is Good CMP/CKP Sync and FICM Sync the FICM Will fire the Inject and FPW How I see it
If FPW sits on 0 then you know the FICM isnt firing the Injectors
This is First time I heard FICM would sync without CMP/CKP Sync Interesting for shure
I thought the Same as you Did Tony about this^^^ But Mark does Talk to alot of People
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I just replaced the Camshaft sensor on an '04 with an '03 engine and fortunately the harness wasn't the problem. The sensor itself cost around $50 from Ford and will require and 8 mm socket with a short extension, but it doable.
When replacing the sensor, it will take some cranking for the motor to start since it seems to have to sync with the PCM again for it to start.
When replacing the sensor, it will take some cranking for the motor to start since it seems to have to sync with the PCM again for it to start.
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I dont think the SGII code is entered right for FPW However I do think the FICM Is Firing the Injectors and you Have CMP/CKP Sync and Also FICM SYNC all sync is probably Good
Here the Values
KOEO FPW=0
Low Idel is FPW=990
High Idel is FPW=680
Looks like the Value changed and wasnt stuck on 0 so I am Compleatly guessing but the FICM is Firing the Injectors
THIS MIGHT BE YOUR PROBLEM with the SGII Gauge Below
And I Just remembered If it is the Early Version of SGII you CANNOT Display CMP/CKP Sync and FICM SYNC on the screen BOTH at the Same Time
The Newer Version SGII has Corrected this^^But the Older Version needs an Update from SG
Its like if you Displayed 2 Volts gauges at the Same Time 1 will show Volts the Other Will NOT show anythingat all
So you have to read those 2 Gauges at diffrent times
so Read CMP/CKP Sync then take it off the screen and then read FICM Sync
Are you with me here^^^^^????????
Having said all this I think you Do Have CMP/CKP Sync and Also FICM Sync
Everything is in SYNC and SYNC Is NOT Your Problem
PLUS it was started/Running then you said she Shifted to Reverse and Truck Died So it Already had SYNC unless the shift did something
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