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Old 10-22-2012, 12:49 PM
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Fuel pump does not come on with ignition switch

Hello, can anyone tell me if the fuel pump operation is controlled thru the ignition switch on a 93 f-150 - 4.9l?

While driving last week smoke started coming from under the D/S dash and then the engine quit.

When I got it home I noticed the fuel pump does not come on when the switch is turned on.

Fuel pump runs when jumped at the fuel relay socket.

Where do I go next? Help - Please.
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Hello, can anyone tell me if the fuel pump operation is controlled thru the ignition switch on a 93 f-150 - 4.9l?

While driving last week smoke started coming from under the D/S dash and then the engine quit.

When I got it home I noticed the fuel pump does not come on when the switch is turned on.

Fuel pump runs when jumped at the fuel relay socket.

Where do I go next? Help - Please.
Replace the PCM computer.
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Hey, thanks subford. I was really trying all options to avoid that but I guess I'm going to have to bit the bullet.

Is that still the case if I have 12 volts at the "voltage-all-the-time" pin in the Fuel pump relay socket and when I turn the switch on I get 12 volts at relay-on pin - but it doesn't time out - it stays on.

Is that also a symptom of a bad PCM?
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Hey, thanks subford. I was really trying all options to avoid that but I guess I'm going to have to bit the bullet.

Is that still the case if I have 12 volts at the "voltage-all-the-time" pin in the Fuel pump relay socket and when I turn the switch on I get 12 volts at relay-on pin - but it doesn't time out - it stays on.

Is that also a symptom of a bad PCM?
Yes it is.
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How about smoke coming from under the D/S dash.

Could the PCM have beltched smoke?

I've taken the cluster and the fuse block out and haven't seen any damage at all. I can only see a small amount of the PCM cover and I can't see all the wires in that corner without pulling some major stuff out of the way.
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How about smoke coming from under the D/S dash.

Could the PCM have beltched smoke?
Yes that is where the smoke came from.
You will have to take the computer out and open it up to see the burnt item that let the smoke out.

The computer comes out from under the hood and is located in the drivers kick panel on your 93.

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By the way you have to take the small screws out that attach the fender to the inter fender and pry the inter fender back with a broom handle.
The center bolt in the plug is a 10mm and you back it out and wiggle the plug as you do. Then there are two small nuts one above and one below the computer plug to take off.
Pull the rubber retainer that is round the computer socket off that was being held on by the two small nuts.
Then just pull and wiggle the computer out.
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Thanks, you'all have been unbelievably helpfull. I won't be able to work on the truck again until this weekend. I'll follow-up and with the results.
Thanks Again!
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Hey Subford, You were right on target. I put a new PCM in and it cranked and runs better than ever.

This is the first time I have ever used a forum but it won't be the last. I hope I will be able to return the favor someday.

Thanks again.
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