Good^^^

still dont rule the IPR Valve out yet better odds the IPR is OK Now though


Did you try to start with the ICP Unplugged yet???


We wont get far without a Gauge

 

Are you Kidden Me!!!!

JOSH EVERY SENSOR ON THE 6.0L REPORTS TO THE PCM IN A VOLT READING

All the PCM reads is Volt readings

Thats ALL the GAUGES do is Convert Volts to PSI if its reading a Pressure Sensor

There might be 1 sensor that dont cant think of any

Every gauge does the MATH The Gauge Converts for Our Ease of Reading

And Yes SGII Does ICP Actual I KNOW for a FACT it Does because when My ICP Sensor went out The ICP Actual Gauge Showed LOW ICP PSI

IF SGII Didnt show actual ICP and ONLY ICP Desired you would NEVER EVER see a Low ICP Reading when there was a Problem with the HPO System. If it was Desired it would ALWAYS Show GOOD even with a Problem

Desired is what it tries to acheive

 

I'm not kidding and it looks like you were schooled by this last year...

ICP Readings (with Video) - Page 2 - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

And Innovative Diesel says the same thing, SG2 can't do ACTUAL ICP psi...

ICP readings on cts - Page 2 - PowerStrokeNation : Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum

Josh

 

Good thread its verified that ICP is Actual ICP in that thread

Thats when all the SGII Codes came out makes sense

I was making shure what ICP Gauge we was looking at with the way SGII is setup they can write the code to display it anyway they want Volts,PSI,KPA ect....




There Wrong^^

ALL ICP Actual is
Is ICP Volts converted to ICP PSI

All the Math for this is in the SGII X-Gauge Code we all enter in

the code tells it where to find the info in the PCM and then it also Converts it from the Volt reading to PSI or Temp whatever you want


This was a Edge Gauge^^

 

the truck always starts, just sometimes takes 4 or 5 trys. sg2 is soon to come

 

Ok Good Deal



Also can pull the Oil Filter and Cap off Hold the Drain in housing closed while someone cranks it should fill oil filter housing fast

 

how involved is a hpo system air test? does anyone have detailed instructions on how to perform the test?

 

Josh Im not saying SGII is Better than DB by any means

DB has very close to same gauges and Lots more Features with Display

DB would be the better one cause the Features Plus probably better DTC Reader

But from a Gauge ability aspect they are same

 

HPO VIDEO #1
Ford 6.0 Powerstroke High Pressure Oil System Air Test - YouTube
HPO VIDEO #2
Found source of HPO System Leak - 2004 Ford F250 6.0 Powerstroke - YouTube
HPO VIDEO #3
Ford F250 6.0 Powerstroke Successful High Pressure System Air Test - YouTube



HIGH PRESSURE OIL AIR FITTING SIZE FOR THE AIR LEAK TEST
M14x1.5 to a #4JIC fitting for 03 and early 04
M12x1.5 to a #4JIC fitting for late 04 and up

A LINK TO BUY THEM HPO ADDAPTERS
OTC 6763 High Pressure Fuel Rail Adapters for Ford 6.0L : Amazon.com : Automotive

 

db is outta the question right now because i dont have an apple device to run it.

 

I am very certain the SG2 is only reading ICP desired from the PCM and is not calculating psi on it's own from the ICP voltage.

Only AE and DB can do that.

Post up an ICP voltage reading and ICP pressure from SG2 reading while driving (not at idle)

Graph from Lilpooh...



Josh

 

looks like a two week job for me. im always workin or being mr. mom!
might as well pull the turbo apart and clean it while its off.

 

looks like ill be driving the bronco for a while!!

 

To me Desired means what its trying to Acheive/Reach
Would you Agree with this^^^ or NOT????

So If SGII only showed ICP Desired it should Never show a BAD/LOW ICP Value that would be present with a Leak

It only makes sense that ICP Desired would ONLY be a Good ICP value
Agree or No????

So how Come we all see Low ICP when theres a HPO Problem The PCM wouldnt Desire a Low/Bad ICP Number



IDK how the graph even works All the Values are Diffrent one is in Volts another is in PSI they would have to be converted to the same common denominator for graph to mean anything maybe it does and I cant see it IDK

 

I think the issue only arises when running a tuner.

The scangauge will show the proper ICP value on a stock engine - at least there will have to be quite a bit of proof to convince me otherwise. However, it appears that some tunes will adjust the ICP that the PCM sees and maybe there is a different PID for the raw value vs what the PCM sees .........................

Interesting discussion if it can be kept civil!!!