Pertronix installation on Flathead
#16
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I put a pertronix system in the 54, 279, 12V. The first one did not last very long, sent it back, They said it possibly failed for one of about 3 reasons. Anyway, the second one has been operating fine. However, my truck is not on the road. Still in build stage. But starts and runs well. Make sure all connections are tight. Mine may have failed because my main battery connection was loose on the Battery.
#17
got the 12 volt negative ground one in my 52 customline . she's stock other than a rewire to 12 volt . the points constantly gave me fits for some reason in this flatty , not in my 53 effie , but in this old girl yep ! she gives me no guff starting , runs much better , and is much more dependable . she sits for long periods of time not being started or ran now that the weather has turned , but as soon as it picks up fuel it lights off ! now the flatty for the 53 effie is going completely aftermarket as it's going to be running a non stock carb on it ...........
#18
About $75 for the Pertronix at Amazon.com
PerTronix 1281 Ignitor for Ford 8 Cylinder
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#23
This info is for the 215 OHV engine only.
As per Pertronix tech, for the 6v pos ground system, Ignitor 1266P6 is needed. If you also need a coil, then it's #40011.
I bought a set on eBay from KMJ Performance, Ignitor Ignition Module Coil for Ford Inline 6 Cyl Holley Distributor 6V POS | eBay. It's cheaper than buying on Amazon by a few bucks. However, the auction link lists a # 45011 coil, which has different ohms. 40011 is 1.5 ohms and 12v. However, as long as the ohms are the same, the voltage doesn't matter. I contacted KMJ and they sold me a kit with the correct coil.
As per Pertronix tech, for the 6v pos ground system, Ignitor 1266P6 is needed. If you also need a coil, then it's #40011.
I bought a set on eBay from KMJ Performance, Ignitor Ignition Module Coil for Ford Inline 6 Cyl Holley Distributor 6V POS | eBay. It's cheaper than buying on Amazon by a few bucks. However, the auction link lists a # 45011 coil, which has different ohms. 40011 is 1.5 ohms and 12v. However, as long as the ohms are the same, the voltage doesn't matter. I contacted KMJ and they sold me a kit with the correct coil.
#24
So I am in. I have the ignition system and coil you listed on the way. Both from KMJ for 113.00 total. Did you put any extra insulation over the wires in the distributor to protect them from the movement of the vacuum plate? I have been reading troubleshooting on these ignitors and most problems were where they pull the wires too tight and the vacuum plates rubbed the wires bare.
#25
Mine is a 1283 which is 6v pos ground flathead.
Is this the one?
PerTronix 1281 Ignitor for Ford 8 Cylinder
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#26
If any of you flathead V8 guys want to get rid of the lousy Loadamatic stock distributor and put one in that has centrifugal advance, check out Lindertech, aka GMCBubba. He offers converted Chevy distributors with either points or electronic. I have the points version on my flatty and it runs SOOOO much better than the stock one, I could not be happier. Drop it in and go......
And no I don't work for him, just a happy customer.
Link to Bubba's;
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And no I don't work for him, just a happy customer.
Link to Bubba's;
Our Services
#27
If any of you flathead V8 guys want to get rid of the lousy Loadamatic stock distributor and put one in that has centrifugal advance, check out Lindertech, aka GMCBubba. He offers converted Chevy distributors with either points or electronic. I have the points version on my flatty and it runs SOOOO much better than the stock one.
Jim does good work and can recondition your Ford distributor to look and work like new with a new vacuum advance, the right Pertronix unit installed and a new matching coil. For me that was a better solution . . . But maybe not for everyone?
#28
Jim Linderman at Bubbas is very knowledgable and a good source. The idea of mating a GM distributor top with the window to adjust the dwell to the Ford base is a good one except I found that the GM head which is much larger than the Ford has the problem of getting to the hold down bolt that occurs on GM products. This is almost impossible to reach when installed on a flathead. Even using the specially curved wrenches that I used on my Corvettes did not work on my flattie. The hold down bracket needs some rework too. I found the Pertronix installed into a Ford distributor a much better solution for me but then I like to fiddle with the timing. One should also make sure to check the vacuum advance as it probably has a ruptured diaphragm if it is original.
Jim does good work and can recondition your Ford distributor to look and work like new with a new vacuum advance, the right Pertronix unit installed and a new matching coil. For me that was a better solution . . . But maybe not for everyone?
Jim does good work and can recondition your Ford distributor to look and work like new with a new vacuum advance, the right Pertronix unit installed and a new matching coil. For me that was a better solution . . . But maybe not for everyone?
The big advantage of the chev distributor is the centrifugal advance. No matter what electronics you add to the stock one it is still held back by the vacuum controlled advance. IMO.
#29
Pete I'm not sure which hold down bolt you are mean, mine is held down to the head by the stock Ford clamp. I did have to use an allen head bolt to clear the cap, but no other issues.
The big advantage of the chev distributor is the centrifugal advance. No matter what electronics you add to the stock one it is still held back by the vacuum controlled advance. IMO.
The big advantage of the chev distributor is the centrifugal advance. No matter what electronics you add to the stock one it is still held back by the vacuum controlled advance. IMO.
I'm not sure what you have for a hold down but my late '50 produced F-2 has a hex head bolt and small bracket . . . (see illustration from Ford manual below). It just didn't fit right with the GM-head distributor that Jim sent which had a taller flange. I tried an allen head and that wasn't any easier.
The rebuilt distributor that he sent with a Pertronix was the best and the engine ran the best . . . but it is stock.
#30