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Old 09-06-2012, 10:59 AM
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Found a Turbo in the JY

found one a 93-94.


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This is in a auto and mine is a stick,isnt there a difference? Is this the ford turbo set up?
Most of the stuff looks there except a hose or two. Do you see anything that is missing?

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It looks like 1 bolt in the air box,1 inthe intake a clamp by the fire wall and some lines but is that all I need to remove? thanks

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Old 09-06-2012, 12:00 PM
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That's the factory turbo set-up, but looks like its missing the top half of the air intake box unless it's just not in the picture... It's the large horn shaped piece that covers the air cleaner and curves around to the turbo inlet fitting... You kind of need that or you will have to do a different style custom intake...

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Old 09-06-2012, 12:41 PM
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There are several things you need to get. The down tube, the up pipe the turbo is mounted on, the crossover tube going from the driver side exhaust manifold to the up pipe, the driver side valve cover for the re-located CDR valve, the hose from the CDR to the air cleaner top, the passenger side valve cover for the re-located glow plug controller, the glow plug wiring harness, the oil drain tube from the bottom of the turbo, and probably a few others I've forgotten...
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Old 09-06-2012, 12:50 PM
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Basically, take everything that is attached to the turbo. Take the lines and whatever they are connected to if you can get it off. Label the bolts as you pull them because from experience, it is a PITA trying to figure out what went where when you have a jar of bolts. Get some paper envelops to put the bolts in and mark the envelope with a sharpie. Put the brackets that you remove in with the associated bolts as well.

I know the Banks kit has a different up pipe casting for auto or manual trannies. Take this one either way. If it is different, you can probably find someone here that will swap with you.
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Old 09-06-2012, 12:59 PM
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Valley pan hole/grommet on factory turbo is much larger than non-turbo, oil feed is bigger than pressure gage port on non-turbo block but that can be drilled and tapped...
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Old 09-06-2012, 04:50 PM
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Can you get away with not moving the controller? I bypassed it on my truck anyways.
The only complications I can think about is if I have to get valve covers and pipes it will start adding up quick. I see used kits for 6-800 bucks,do you think I can do this for less or is this the way to go.

I can get the whole damn engine for $350 so that is something to think about also and maybe I could sell some stuff off it. It has a serpitine belt system so that should be worth something right. I guess I will wait for a couple more answers and if it all works out I will go get it this weekend.

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Old 09-06-2012, 05:15 PM
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Get the whole engine, that will be much easier, then you don't have to worry about forgetting something and tracking it down later.
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Old 09-06-2012, 05:57 PM
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I agree, if you have a place to keep the engine, get the whole dang thing. When you get it home (or before if you can), find out if it runs and if so, you have a good spare if you ever need it.
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:O 350 for whole engine, id be all on that especially isnce the turnbo kit is twice the price! Sell the engine after for 300...
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agreed.you started out asking the wrong question.
the question should have been: should i buy this whole factory turbo 7.3l engine for $350,because id like to have the turbo.the answer from everyone and his brother will be a unanimous yes! that or an unanimous: you'd be a fool not too!

pretty hard to beat scoring a complete idi diesel engine for about the cost of one new powerstroke fuel injector hey guys?
some guys smile going uphill towing max gross with the cc set to 80 lol,and some guys smile all the way to the bank instead lol.
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Old 09-06-2012, 08:11 PM
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ENGINE!! I was hoping you all wouldnt say that because I hate pulling a motor in a junkyard by myself! But I will I guess lol. It makes more sense to just bring the whole thing home,

The jy is an hour away so that way i want have to make several trips if I leave something.

I have pulled a bunch of motors but not a turbo diesel. Do I need to remove the turbo or can I get a chain over it? I hope I can pull it with the tranny. can you remove the core support? I guess I can just go out side and see haha.

Thanks for the help guys. I will try to get some funds together tomorrow and see if I can make it happen this weekend. I have been dealing with my house flooding so cash is tight. I will have to sneak it out of the cookie jar and think of a good lie when my wife sees this and sais "what the hell is that,you have spent more money on that crappy ol truck" lol
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Old 09-07-2012, 02:20 PM
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ENGINE!! I was hoping you all wouldnt say that because I hate pulling a motor in a junkyard by myself! But I will I guess lol. It makes more sense to just bring the whole thing home,

The jy is an hour away so that way i want have to make several trips if I leave something.

I have pulled a bunch of motors but not a turbo diesel. Do I need to remove the turbo or can I get a chain over it? I hope I can pull it with the tranny. can you remove the core support? I guess I can just go out side and see haha.

Thanks for the help guys. I will try to get some funds together tomorrow and see if I can make it happen this weekend. I have been dealing with my house flooding so cash is tight. I will have to sneak it out of the cookie jar and think of a good lie when my wife sees this and sais "what the hell is that,you have spent more money on that crappy ol truck" lol

The core support and fenders can be unbolted. You should be able to remove the engine with the turbo installed. That's how Ford put it in there AFAIK. You could probably get the tranny out at the same time of you pull the core support. Just have the engine attached to the hoist before you start unbolting the tranny and crossmember, etc. You don't want that sucker falling on your face, so use a jack under the tail piece as well.
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Old 09-11-2012, 07:55 PM
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Well I just couldnt bring my self to pull the motor so today I went and just pulled the turbo. Took about an 1.5 hrs and I think I got evrything.

I do have a couple of questions,,where does the cdr hose go from the valve cover? I could not get the up pipe seperated so I just drug it all out the top and it fought me every inch. I want to do a 3 inch down pipe but what about the up pipe?

I have a nice install sheet I found on an ATS sytem and it describes how to turn up the pump and mod the wastegate. Isnt this ATS setup just with ford stamped on it?

One last thing, it was missing the air box lid and the hose that goes from the air box to the turbo so let me know if any one has one laying around.



Now I will send my new injectors to Clayton and have them pop tested and get some boost and pyro gauges and I should be set. Can you still get 3 inch down pipes? Does it replace the cast neck also? thanks guys Oh yea ,,,it only set me back $135 for everything

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man that is a smoking deal.too bad about the engine though.hopefully someone comes along and can use it,rather than it going for scrap.anyway congrats! you're going to really like the performance gain!
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The CDR hose connects to the air cleaner cover, between the filter & the turbo. You need to find one of those.
Yes, the Ford system is an ATS 093 system, with a choked down turbo exhaust outlet & down pipe.
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